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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

The current change makes a huge difference to me now as a breach becomes an arrestable offence. As such, any fine issued to me has to be reported by me to the solicitors regulation authority and that could end up in sanction, fine or the removal of my practicing certificate. When it was a rule they were not as concerned. As such, even if I was willing to sit in a group of 7 people round at a house, if a seventh person turns up, I have to leave. Spent yesterday cancelling all social events where I would not fully trust the host not to invite more than 6 people.

Yeah agree completely and something I noticed, know that feeling about the knock on problems with institutes and registrations etc.

Just adds to not taking the risk, but it is not good for the family well being and certainly affects me, but keep ignoring it and hoping there is light at the end...
 
It's not often I agree with the Scots however their version of the "Rule of 6" is going to make life so much easier for families by not counting under 12's. In a fortnight we have my mum's birthday, there are 7 of us however one is our daughter who has just turned 6, under the English rules that means one has to stay at home if we stick to those rules.
 
It's not often I agree with the Scots however their version of the "Rule of 6" is going to make life so much easier for families by not counting under 12's. In a fortnight we have my mum's birthday, there are 7 of us however one is our daughter who has just turned 6, under the English rules that means one has to stay at home if we stick to those rules.

Agree with that. Most of the things that I have cancelled have been because of the number of children that people have. That said (and I have not seen the briefing so not sure of the exact terms) I would not have thought that, for example, a big kids birthday party with dozens of kids and 6 adults would be ideal when looking at containing the spread. Just my thoughts but I would be happy with, for example, if you were meeting at a house, the host's kids did not count but those visiting did. that would allow flexibility and keep the numbers down.
 
Agree with that. Most of the things that I have cancelled have been because of the number of children that people have. That said (and I have not seen the briefing so not sure of the exact terms) I would not have thought that, for example, a big kids birthday party with dozens of kids and 6 adults would be ideal when looking at containing the spread. Just my thoughts but I would be happy with, for example, if you were meeting at a house, the host's kids did not count but those visiting did. that would allow flexibility and keep the numbers down.

Yeah, can see your point about the kids birthday party. I guess this will end up with the individual using their own instinct and potentially breaking the law in a very “specific and limited way”.
 
puts paid to our Jolly is 2 weeks, 12 of us in a group, playing down in Fife and Aungus for a week and lashing it up at nigh, unless we split into two groups and stay away from each other
 
Agree with that. Most of the things that I have cancelled have been because of the number of children that people have. That said (and I have not seen the briefing so not sure of the exact terms) I would not have thought that, for example, a big kids birthday party with dozens of kids and 6 adults would be ideal when looking at containing the spread. Just my thoughts but I would be happy with, for example, if you were meeting at a house, the host's kids did not count but those visiting did. that would allow flexibility and keep the numbers down.

Or as it is otherwise know as, a normal day in every school. ;)
 
You think if 7 of us sit outside and have a barbie, whilst being 8-9 feet away from each other, is going to end up with one of us dying.

What kind of probability do you think of that happening is ?

Kind of thinking that is surreal and unbelievable and why these rules make no sense, even to a non risk taker like me. Its plain stupid thinking.
The problem is that people dont tend to stick by the rules when at home, in public venues they are in sight of others and more likely to distance.
 
The current change makes a huge difference to me now as a breach becomes an arrestable offence. As such, any fine issued to me has to be reported by me to the solicitors regulation authority and that could end up in sanction, fine or the removal of my practicing certificate. When it was a rule they were not as concerned. As such, even if I was willing to sit in a group of 7 people round at a house, if a seventh person turns up, I have to leave. Spent yesterday cancelling all social events where I would not fully trust the host not to invite more than 6 people.

The fact that the same rule applies indoors and outdoors is proof it is wrong, because the risk is very different indoors and outdoors as Chris Whitty, Patrick Vallance and even Matt Hancock have said repeatedly. If the rule of 6 is set about right for indoors, then it is excessive for outdoors. If it is set right for outdoors, it is not enough for indoors.
 
The fact that the same rule applies indoors and outdoors is proof it is wrong, because the risk is very different indoors and outdoors as Chris Whitty, Patrick Vallance and even Matt Hancock have said repeatedly. If the rule of 6 is set about right for indoors, then it is excessive for outdoors. If it is set right for outdoors, it is not enough for indoors.
Its easy to understand with one number though. People have been complaining the rules are vague and difficult to understand.
 
Its easy to understand with one number though. People have been complaining the rules are vague and difficult to understand.

Easy to understand is a valid short term objective, but getting people to stick to it longer term is needed, and that is exactly what the behavioural science people in SAGE were concerned about with lockdown in the first place. Not so easy to explain the logic behind why you can have a group of 7 down the pub but not in your back garden or the park.
 
Easy to understand is a valid short term objective, but getting people to stick to it longer term is needed, and that is exactly what the behavioural science people in SAGE were concerned about with lockdown in the first place. Not so easy to explain the logic behind why you can have a group of 7 down the pub but not in your back garden or the park.
So groups of six in both makes sense.
 
The problem is that people dont tend to stick by the rules when at home, in public venues they are in sight of others and more likely to distance.

Bit of a random comment to what we where discussing. Whats that got to do with you said of 'It would really be rubbish if one of you killed a member of your family.' ? if I had a barbie outside. What is the chance of one of us dying if 7 of us got together and had a barbie, 1 in 5 million chance? or do you think it is higher or lower ?

The above comment isnt really true tho, you only have to look everywhere to see it isn't true. Plenty of people are not distancing in public, logic would say they would but they aren't tbh.


The new rules/law will be with us until next year with winter coming. As someone who has complied completely, I am fully aware life can not go on like this, its not workable, even I have had enough now!

By law I believe we/other family members us cant touch the grandson, cant cuddle our own children who don't live with us, we can not cuddle our own parents, by law boyfriend/girlfriends cant touch each other, Gee our parents could be dead before they see us all together again for a family picture, life really is to short, comes to mind. Think about all of that kind of stuff, its hard to swallow for someone who is family based for any length of time.

We could do some of that safely outside, but nope not allowed as a group. Yeah fair to say its affecting us. But will keep on laughing about it, its almost like being in a film :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
Bit of a random comment to what we where discussing. Whats that got to do with you said of 'It would really be rubbish if one of you killed a member of your family.' ? if I had a barbie outside. What is the chance of one of us dying if 7 of us got together and had a barbie, 1 in 5 million chance? or do you think it is higher or lower ?

The above comment isnt really true tho, you only have to look everywhere to see it isn't true. Plenty of people are not distancing in public, logic would say they would but they aren't tbh.


The new rules/law will be with us until next year with winter coming. As someone who has complied completely, I am fully aware life can not go on like this, its not workable, even I have had enough now!

By law I believe we/other family members us cant touch the grandson, cant cuddle our own children who don't live with us, we can not cuddle our own parents, by law boyfriend/girlfriends cant touch each other, Gee our parents could be dead before they see us all together again for a family picture, life really is to short, comes to mind. Think about all of that kind of stuff, its hard to swallow for someone who is family based for any length of time.

We could do some of that safely outside, but nope not allowed as a group. Yeah fair to say its affecting us. But will keep on laughing about it, its almost like being in a film :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Have you seen the cuddle curtain idea? A bloke made a device using a shower curtain, full length, where you could put your arms through and cuddle someone without being in direct contact. Look it up online, there is a lovely video of him cuddling his gran.

Maybe something you could adapt?
 
Friend's 5 old year has been back at school and now is down with fever for the past couple of days. Cant find a testing spot in London at the moment.
 
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