GB72
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My view is it is all down to enforcement. Have a big group in your house, get reported, see a police car arriving, everyone in the back garden. Now at least if there are more than 6 action can be taken
Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?
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My view is it is all down to enforcement. Have a big group in your house, get reported, see a police car arriving, everyone in the back garden. Now at least if there are more than 6 action can be taken
Ethan
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Enforcement needs to tackle the areas of highest risk. The virus doesn't know if it is in a pub or a private house. 7 people having a barbecue outside is next to no risk. A pub with people slowly impairing their judgement and good sense as the evening goes on is much more risky.
Mudball
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I can’t speak for him.. his view was they can’t find one ... they are waiting for a slot.
HID had her test arranged in a day. Seamless and very good experience. But then she gets priority as she is NHS & key worker
chellie
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Well daughter couldn't get a drive through appointment for granddaughter so she had to get a postal one. Granddaughter has a cough but not a continous one but she wasn't allowed to go to school. That didn't arrive until Tuesday and no results yet. So she's had yet another week off school
Mudball
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Interesting... again like my Mrs, you may have got it as a key worker. I will ask him to give it a shot. Tnx for heads up
Eldest granddaughter went back to school this week. Currently self-isolating with a sore throat, fever and snotty nose, awaiting a test. Eldest daughter, 7 months pregnant, went into hospital today with a sore throat and fever. She's also suffering blinding headaches, pins and needles and having trouble forming sentences. Scheduled for an MRI roundabout now.
Worrying...
Worrying...
Swinglowandslow
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Hope it works out well
chrisd
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I hope that everything is ok for them both Brian, keeping fingers crossed ??
Swinglowandslow
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So I understand. We are on the south coast, having had the summer invasion?
ColchesterFC
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It seems as though there are tests available if you are willing to pay for them or have someone that will pay for you to take one. I'm going back offshore again next week and have been told that I have to be at a hotel on Tuesday morning to get tested. I'll then be isolating in the hotel until the result arrives, probably on Wednesday, before travelling to the vessel on Thursday, assuming the result is negative.
I've got mixed feelings about this. It seems wrong that I can get tested just because the company I'll be working for can afford to pay for the test while others, who might be more worthy, are struggling to get a test. The flip side of that is that according to current guidelines I am classed as a key worker as I'll be working on a site survey for an offshore wind farm and energy supply is included in the list of key workers, even if the energy produced won't be seen for several years.
I've got mixed feelings about this. It seems wrong that I can get tested just because the company I'll be working for can afford to pay for the test while others, who might be more worthy, are struggling to get a test. The flip side of that is that according to current guidelines I am classed as a key worker as I'll be working on a site survey for an offshore wind farm and energy supply is included in the list of key workers, even if the energy produced won't be seen for several years.
SocketRocket
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But where do you draw a line, seven, ten, twenty? Its easy to complain your personal circumstance would not create a problem but someone has to take responsibility and set a limit, that limit happens to be six. Crap happens and its happening right now, most of us are in circumstances that create emotional hardship but the alternative to working together is really frightening.Bit of a random comment to what we where discussing. Whats that got to do with you said of 'It would really be rubbish if one of you killed a member of your family.' ? if I had a barbie outside. What is the chance of one of us dying if 7 of us got together and had a barbie, 1 in 5 million chance? or do you think it is higher or lower ?
The above comment isnt really true tho, you only have to look everywhere to see it isn't true. Plenty of people are not distancing in public, logic would say they would but they aren't tbh.
The new rules/law will be with us until next year with winter coming. As someone who has complied completely, I am fully aware life can not go on like this, its not workable, even I have had enough now!
By law I believe we/other family members us cant touch the grandson, cant cuddle our own children who don't live with us, we can not cuddle our own parents, by law boyfriend/girlfriends cant touch each other, Gee our parents could be dead before they see us all together again for a family picture, life really is to short, comes to mind. Think about all of that kind of stuff, its hard to swallow for someone who is family based for any length of time.
We could do some of that safely outside, but nope not allowed as a group. Yeah fair to say its affecting us. But will keep on laughing about it, its almost like being in a film
chellie
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Doon frae Troon
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The enforcement of wearing masks whilst entering, leaving and moving around in pubs and cafe's is a good move.
Not sure if that is a Scotland only thing.
Not sure if that is a Scotland only thing.
Ethan
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I hope they are both OK. Always a worrying time in late pregnancy even without all the Covid stuff around as well.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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Indeed...and the constraints that we have been asked to adhere to will be based on population statistical risk and probability and not single instance risk and probability. The behaviour of any single group of 6 or 7 determines the risk of infection within that group and beyond in the wider community but it will not be the same as the risk of all groups in that same community and hence the risk to that wider community. And it is risk of infection spread in the wider community that is critical.
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What Twaddle
Seriously the risk is massively different if you are inside to outside and to treat them the same is mental. Have you not learnt or listened or read nothing during this whole pandemic.
You both seem to have missed my moan and how it is affecting me and the most important factor and have gone off at a tangent. As for SR saying one of us would die at a BBQ, when being outside, socially distancing, cooking separately and so on, please kept some realisation to your posts. rather than just trying to control people by scaremongering.
Anyway I am going off at a tangent to my original moan and how this is affecting me and probably even going political at the moment, as the science for sure doesn't support it, groups sizes being the same for inside and outside is stupid and sending the wrong messages. We are far far safer outside, simple as that and we should be promoting that first and foremost.
Have fun, think I have had my moan. Mood hoover
Ethan
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What Twaddle
Seriously the risk is massively different if you are inside to outside and to treat them the same is mental. Have you not learnt or listened or read nothing during this whole pandemic.
You both seem to have missed my moan and how it is affecting me and the most important factor and have gone off at a tangent. As for SR saying one of us would die at a BBQ, when being outside, socially distancing, cooking separately and so on, please kept some realisation to your posts. rather than just trying to control people by scaremongering.
I agree. Inside and outside present very different risk levels. Whitty and Vallance said this repeatedly at Number 10 briefings. Simplicity is fine but it needs to have at least a tenuous grasp on reality. Failing to distinguish between people meeting at home vs the pub also undermines the simplicity somewhat. The virus doesn't know if it is in a pub or a private home. The risk of attending a BBQ outside while maintaining social distancing is very low unless the other person is deliberately coughing in your face.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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I was quite clear that I was talking about multiple group risk to population compared with single group risk to population. I was not commenting on right or wrongs of numbers in a group or indoors vs outdoors.What Twaddle
Seriously the risk is massively different if you are inside to outside and to treat them the same is mental. Have you not learnt or listened or read nothing during this whole pandemic.
You both seem to have missed my moan and how it is affecting me and the most important factor and have gone off at a tangent. As for SR saying one of us would die at a BBQ, when being outside, socially distancing, cooking separately and so on, please kept some realisation to your posts. rather than just trying to control people by scaremongering.
Anyway I am going off at a tangent to my original moan and how this is affecting me and probably even going political at the moment, as the science for sure doesn't support it, groups sizes being the same for inside and outside is stupid and sending the wrong messages. We are far far safer outside, simple as that and we should be promoting that first and foremost.
Have fun, think I have had my moan. Mood hoover
Mudball
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hope it works out.. good luck
SocketRocket
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I dont think you want to understand whats being said and must keep bringing everything down to your garden barbicue. People keep complaining the rules are difficult to understand so making a rule of six should ensure its easy enough for anyone, also I explained that people tend to be more lax with social distancing in their homes verses in public, you may well stick to the rules but its not all about youWhat Twaddle
Seriously the risk is massively different if you are inside to outside and to treat them the same is mental. Have you not learnt or listened or read nothing during this whole pandemic.
You both seem to have missed my moan and how it is affecting me and the most important factor and have gone off at a tangent. As for SR saying one of us would die at a BBQ, when being outside, socially distancing, cooking separately and so on, please kept some realisation to your posts. rather than just trying to control people by scaremongering.
Anyway I am going off at a tangent to my original moan and how this is affecting me and probably even going political at the moment, as the science for sure doesn't support it, groups sizes being the same for inside and outside is stupid and sending the wrong messages. We are far far safer outside, simple as that and we should be promoting that first and foremost.
Have fun, think I have had my moan. Mood hoover