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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

pendodave said:
Researchers looking at data from 260 hospitals in england and wales found that there were 6 deaths of minors. All of them had profound health issues.
Source : prof calem semple, univ of liverpool.
Dr olivia swann, the study's co author said that the ports findings were "extremely reassuring".
Facts, not gossip
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But its not just about deaths of youngsters
As Ethan says, this bug can cause serious complications as well as killing people
And there's the ever present risk of passing it on to others who, in turn, pass it on to someone else.
 
Imurg said:
But its not just about deaths of youngsters
As Ethan says, this bug can cause serious complications as well as killing people
And there's the ever present risk of passing it on to others who, in turn, pass it on to someone else.
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It’s about the level of risk you’re willing to take for me. If you aren’t fussed and happy to take the chances with regards ‘long Covid’ then go for it. If you are in a family where your youngster is out on the lash then just ensure they’re keeping their distance and not seeing the elderly. I fail to see what else can be done short of going on lockdown for god knows how long.
 
Imurg said:
I've been seeing lots of groups of school and college kids hanging around, clumped together, sharing drinks and crisps with barely a few inches between them and hardly a mask in sight.
I get the feeling they've decided they're immune and so dont have to follow guidelines outside school or college...which are pretty thorough from what some of my pupils have told me.
On the plus side for the kids I've not had one turn up for a lesson without a mask...although that could be because I've trained them well:whistle::unsure:
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Well at school there in bubbles (at some schools) year group bubbles so prob will be like if we can go school why can't we hang out?

I mean my work colleagues we are very social .. we can work 10 of us but can't the same 10 go for a drink after work
 
road2ruin said:
It’s about the level of risk you’re willing to take for me. If you aren’t fussed and happy to take the chances with regards ‘long Covid’ then go for it. If you are in a family where your youngster is out on the lash then just ensure they’re keeping their distance and not seeing the elderly. I fail to see what else can be done short of going on lockdown for god knows how long.
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One persons “go for it” attitude can and will effect others who have not intention of going for it.
 
Billysboots said:
All a little melodramatic, unless of course this is a wind up. You surely can’t expect everyone to stay at home for ever? And wear a mask at home? Really?

And, with respect, I resent being told “that extra shop you did killed a granny.” That’s cobblers. If every one of us who has been shopping during the last six months had “killed a granny” as a result, I rather think the death toll would be considerably higher than it is.

I disagree that this current situation can’t be pinned on a generation to some degree. Yes, there are members of all generations doing both the right and wrong thing. But, in the main, the younger generation appear not to really take any of this seriously at all. Just pop into any pub of an evening, and you’ll see large groups of under-30’s carrying on like nothing has changed.

Apologies if that upsets our younger forumers, but that is my experience. I do, of course, accept that others may well have contrary experiences but I speak as I find.
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It’s not a wind up no, I know what I need to do in a pandemic but I choose not to, like everybody else here toeing the line on rules.
I go in pubs and they aren’t just filled with 18-30’s. Go in the daytime and they’re full with the early retirees to 80 year olds.

I don’t expect you to wear a mask at home no, but you will wear one to protect strangers in a shop but not home with your family? Can you be 100% sure you don’t take anything extra home?

“Killing a granny” very dramatic I agree but you must understand that every interaction you have in a environment where there is people there is a possible transmission and could lead to a death. Unnecessary trips and shopping still apply as they did in March and April, the virus hasn’t gone away but it’s okay to go out because Boris said so. :rolleyes:

I don’t give two hoots, I go out, I live my life as much as possible knowing there’s a trade off between saving jobs and the economy and spreading the virus But i know damn well you shouldn’t be out in a “pandemic”.
 
Jamesbrown said:
It’s not a wind up no, I know what I need to do in a pandemic but I choose not to, like everybody else here toeing the line on rules.
I go in pubs and they aren’t just filled with 18-30’s. Go in the daytime and they’re full with the early retirees to 80 year olds.

I don’t expect you to wear a mask at home no, but you will wear one to protect strangers in a shop but not home with your family? Can you be 100% sure you don’t take anything extra home?

“Killing a granny” very dramatic I agree but you must understand that every interaction you have in a environment where there is people there is a possible transmission and could lead to a death. Unnecessary trips and shopping still apply as they did in March and April, the virus hasn’t gone away but it’s okay to go out because Boris said so. :rolleyes:

I don’t give two hoots, I go out, I live my life as much as possible knowing there’s a trade off between saving jobs and the economy and spreading the virus But i know damn well you shouldn’t be out in a “pandemic”.
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I’m sure I’m not alone in struggling to understand your stance. Having read and then re-read your last two posts I’m afraid the messages are really rather mixed.
 
Billysboots said:
I’m sure I’m not alone in struggling to understand your stance. Having read and then re-read your last two posts I’m afraid the messages are really rather mixed.
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I don’t have a stance, just found it amusing that people pass the blame mostly on one demographic when the same people aren’t doing all they can to stop the spread themselves.
I’ve found it’s not about who’s spreading it but more about trying to shame who’s not following the new normal.
 
Not an "affect me" thing directly but the stats thread has fallen away.
Globally yesterday there was a new high over 310 thousand cases reported in a day.
Know increased testing is part of the story, but still sobering IMO.
Do wonder what it'll look like in a year's time ?
 
robinthehood said:
While 38 isn't old, it's also not young in relation to the lowest risk group. Statically the 20 somethings are still pretty low risk of serious illness. Although that doesn't stop them passing it on to others. Tbf there as many older people to who don't seem to care either.
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That last sentence, No that's not true. That's being "politically correct".

There is a large, major , proportion of youngsters who are behaving as though Covid doesn't exist because they believe, mostly rightly, that it won't badly affect them. That's as far as they think, or take their social responsibility.
They choose to ignore or not care that their behaviour is dangerous to elderly and/or vulnerable.
 
Havering on the verge of a local lockdown

Very worrying

Covid walk in centre been opened 2 miles up road .. for next 6 months
 
Swinglowandslow said:
That last sentence, No that's not true. That's being "politically correct".

There is a large, major , proportion of youngsters who are behaving as though Covid doesn't exist because they believe, mostly rightly, that it won't badly affect them. That's as far as they think, or take their social responsibility.
They choose to ignore or not care that their behaviour is dangerous to elderly and/or vulnerable.
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It's as true as anything you're saying.
 
Swinglowandslow said:
That last sentence, No that's not true. That's being "politically correct".

There is a large, major , proportion of youngsters who are behaving as though Covid doesn't exist because they believe, mostly rightly, that it won't badly affect them. That's as far as they think, or take their social responsibility.
They choose to ignore or not care that their behaviour is dangerous to elderly and/or vulnerable.
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Not sure what age group you are referring to but for a lot of youngsters, may be because they are being sent to school with the direct inference that it does not affect them, they feel this way.
 
Billysboots said:
I’m sure the link has been posted before, but there is loads of useful information here, including a map which provides detail of worst hit areas. The northwest is still taking a pasting.

https://www.travellingtabby.com/uk-coronavirus-tracker/
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Without making this political.. more the press really.. I'd love to see the two bottom numbers be the real report .. yes don't play down deaths but look how many people recovered .. and how many in hospital compared to cases
 
pauljames87 said:
Without making this political.. more the press really.. I'd love to see the two bottom numbers be the real report .. yes don't play down deaths but look how many people recovered .. and how many in hospital compared to cases
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There is no proper data on recovered patients, this is an estimated number based on the assumption that if you are still alive after 4 weeks, you are recovered. That is an unsafe assumption, so I would place little value on it. Plenty of people who had community Covid (i.e. were not even admitted to hospital) still have troublesome symptoms more than 4 weeks after.
 
Ethan said:
There is no proper data on recovered patients, this is an estimated number based on the assumption that if you are still alive after 4 weeks, you are recovered. That is an unsafe assumption, so I would place little value on it. Plenty of people who had community Covid (i.e. were not even admitted to hospital) still have troublesome symptoms more than 4 weeks after.
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I had a very minor brush with it back in March and still suffer with some symptoms which I attribute to coronavirus, as routine bloods appear perfectly normal.

The three big issues for me are still mild headaches along with a vague feeling of disorientation (both of which were very prevalent in March), and extreme tiredness. I can imagine those who suffered more pronounced virus symptoms may well have proportionately more pronounced lingering issues now.

Returning to those figures, hospitalisations have crept up by about 150 in the last week or so, although ICU numbers appear to be constant. Given the apparent increase in positive tests, neither of those would appear cause for concern. Yet.
 
Billysboots said:
I had a very minor brush with it back in March and still suffer with some symptoms which I attribute to coronavirus, as routine bloods appear perfectly normal.

The three big issues for me are still mild headaches along with a vague feeling of disorientation (both of which were very prevalent in March), and extreme tiredness. I can imagine those who suffered more pronounced virus symptoms may well have proportionately more pronounced lingering issues now.

Returning to those figures, hospitalisations have crept up by about 150 in the last week or so, although ICU numbers appear to be constant. Given the apparent increase in positive tests, neither of those would appear cause for concern. Yet.
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The long Covid symptoms don't necessarily correlate with the initial severity. Some of the downstream effects are connected to the immunological response at around day 7 which drives the inflammatory phase of the condition in those who get it. These at least partially explain the greater mortality in men, whose immunology tends to be a bit different from women. Fatigue is common and is a well recognised feature of a number of post-viral syndromes.
 
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