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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Cheers Ethan.


Btw, what is it with a 6 people limit for meet ups? Whats teh average family like? About 4 people? Wouldn't 8 make more sense without an actual increase of risk as it is still just 2 households?
I understand stopping 30, but 6 vs 8 seems a weird treshhold looking at what seems to be families, at least around here. Especially with kids going to school/nursery anyway.
 
larmen said:
Cheers Ethan.


Btw, what is it with a 6 people limit for meet ups? Whats teh average family like? About 4 people? Wouldn't 8 make more sense without an actual increase of risk as it is still just 2 households?
I understand stopping 30, but 6 vs 8 seems a weird treshhold looking at what seems to be families, at least around here. Especially with kids going to school/nursery anyway.
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The higher the number of people, the greater the possible exponential spread if some of them are infected, so risk does increase if the number is larger. I assume the number 6 was based on some modelling and assumptions about family size, and differences in family size in NI and Scotland therefore result in different rules there.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
They don't. Daughter lives close to us, and it's my wife's bestie and she lives in Brighton. Would be OK in Scotland as 8 people from 3 households is allowed. But we are not in Scotland, and as much as Matt Hancock was very clear on Today this morning about the number being 6 - he didn't mention (and wasn't asked) about the number of households that can make up that 6.

So just need clarification if anyone can please - in the context of from next Monday when the 6 limit kicks in - as my wife will contact her bestie later today to cancel, and will also call Claridge's to cancel.

She has also decided to cancel our restaurant booking that same evening as we will be 6 from four households, and my wife doesn't want us split 3/3 sitting at 2m separated tables :(

So be it - as we do our best to do our bit - just hope and wish everyone is as willing...
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As of Monday, the 6 persons limit for England is from any number of households - no longer limited to 2 households. The difficulty with the old/current system is that the police - or indeed anyone trying to enforce things - had no real means of checking the actual number of households involved. Trouble is, the 4 home nations each have their own rules.
 
I'm totally depressed over all this now. No one has got a clue what to do for the best. Lets do this! No lets do this!. Hang on lets do this!

If things had been done correctly in the first place.....

And don't start me on why four countries are doing things completely different from each other when they are supposed to be together.
 
Crazyface said:
I'm totally depressed over all this now. No one has got a clue what to do for the best. Lets do this! No lets do this!. Hang on lets do this!

If things had been done correctly in the first place.....

And don't start me on why four countries are doing things completely different from each other when they are supposed to be together.
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Well, devolution for start, remember that?
But, because even if one country did things perfectly, the other three would never admit to it and so do things differently and then say their way is better.
Otherwise their countrymen would ask why the hell didn't they do that!
This is the world we live in, saving face is more important than saving lives. **

** Mods, this may look political but it's not. It's just an observation on human nature, honest!
 
What seems to be the BBC's anti lockdown stance. I haven't seen or heard one article which isn't moaning about it, there was also an item on their website the other day which was basically saying the latest spike wasn't as bad as it appeared.
Poor poor journalism.
 
Papas1982 said:
If the rumoured reports are that it’s 17-21 causing the spikes.

Why don’t the government ban them from gathering? The old were basically scared into staying inside for months. So punish the youngsters instead of everyone else......
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Good idea, but difficult to enforse, there were large groups of teenagers on the beach near us most nights during the summer and even worse at weekends. If you ban then from meeting, They'll find a place to meet anyway.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
We guessed the 2 households limit still applied - just that in making things 100% clear he didn’t mention it. Anyway what my wife will do is go into London with our daughter and we’ll go for a meal just with our son.

Not what we’d like on an important birthday but there you go. It really isn’t the end of the world or that important for us to contravene the rules. The time will come round when we can do what we’d liked to have done.

In terms of enforcement when out I’m thinking we are not too far from having to carry some document that can prove our home address. That way police could ask a group of 6 to prove they are from two households.[/QUOTE]

I don't think they'll be checking things like that. If you are a group of 6 then further "break down". checking won't happen. They'll be too busy with the idiots who will be in larger than legal groups.
As has been said, the enforcement of that will be harder this time.
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I've got no [problem with restrictions being tightened, its good sense, but why announce it for a few days time? Just do it. All that will happen is this weekend everyone will pile round their mates houses for one last hurrah and were all back to where we were in March. I worked the night before they closed the pubs last time, they were all rammed, spilling out onto the streets. Easy to see where the virus spread:rolleyes:
 
SaintHacker said:
I've got no [problem with restrictions being tightened, its good sense, but why announce it for a few days time? Just do it. All that will happen is this weekend everyone will pile round their mates houses for one last hurrah and were all back to where we were in March. I worked the night before they closed the pubs last time, they were all rammed, spilling out onto the streets. Easy to see where the virus spread:rolleyes:
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You do need to give a little notice so that folks can cancel things that were planned...but I agree - it would seem to have made more sense to have the new rules kicking in after tonight to avoid weekend 'gatherings' and the associated risk these present. It seem like a timing aimed at minimising the numbers of folks upset by having to cancel their plans for this weekend.
 
Swinglowandslow said:
I don't think they'll be checking things like that. If you are a group of 6 then further "break down". checking won't happen. They'll be too busy with the idiots who will be in larger than legal groups.
As has been said, the enforcement of that will be harder this time.
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Added to the fact a huge amount of people are no longer at their normal address'. Much easier the new way, group of 7+, get fined.
 
Still looking forward to the day that a family of 7 can get together even outside for a barbie, or we are allowed to cuddle the grandson of almost 5 months old.

All very depressing and rubbish.:(
 
Given the targeted approach to local measures in places like Leicester, I am slightly bemused as to why the “Rule of Six” is nationwide given 75% of England has a low infection rate.
 
Billysboots said:
Given the targeted approach to local measures in places like Leicester, I am slightly bemused as to why the “Rule of Six” is nationwide given 75% of England has a low infection rate.
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I'm not a fan of the devolved approach, we were in Wales last week and it seems that you don't have to wear a face mask in shops, but do on public transport. Which then made we wonder what other rules I may not have known..
 
DRW said:
Still looking forward to the day that a family of 7 can get together even outside for a barbie, or we are allowed to cuddle the grandson of almost 5 months old.

All very depressing and rubbish.:(
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It would really be rubbish if one of you killed a member of your family.
 
SocketRocket said:
It would really be rubbish if one of you killed a member of your family.
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You think if 7 of us sit outside and have a barbie, whilst being 8-9 feet away from each other, is going to end up with one of us dying.

What kind of probability do you think of that happening is ?

Kind of thinking that is surreal and unbelievable and why these rules make no sense, even to a non risk taker like me. Its plain stupid thinking.
 
The current change makes a huge difference to me now as a breach becomes an arrestable offence. As such, any fine issued to me has to be reported by me to the solicitors regulation authority and that could end up in sanction, fine or the removal of my practicing certificate. When it was a rule they were not as concerned. As such, even if I was willing to sit in a group of 7 people round at a house, if a seventh person turns up, I have to leave. Spent yesterday cancelling all social events where I would not fully trust the host not to invite more than 6 people.
 
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