Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

[HomerJSimpson]

On the plus side we've now completely decamped from our escalation spaces in theatres and recovery meaning all our Covid patients are being house on the main ICU so numbers coming down (now 20). Not sure what happens if we see a big spike similar to Germany and other countries that have relaxed their lockdown rules as I think the plan is to deep clean and get these functioning again as operating theatres asap

 

[GB72]

Yeah but...

My brother-in-law lives about a mile away, I can call him up and from tomorrow we can go up our golf club and play a round of golf for 4 hours as long as we stay 2m away from each other but apparently I cannot sit in his garden with him for 30 mins sitting 2m+ away from each other.

This is the stuff that gets people to not follow the rules and try to justify it

At least some explanation this morning. Some people do not have gardens and so too easier a leap of logic to think, OK in the house is fine. Also many have gardens that can only be accessed through the house and, again, the temptation to linger in the house is pretty strong if the weather is not great or in any household, to head inside if it starts raining. The important part is keeping the meetings outside where it is safer. I am sure garden meetings will come soon enough but these are the first steps and needed to be steps that could be rolled back quickly without reversing a massive change in mindset in the population if the figures start to rise so, for me, it will be a walk up to the local sports field for a chat.

 

[drdel]

At least some explanation this morning. Some people do not have gardens and so too easier a leap of logic to think, OK in the house is fine. Also many have gardens that can only be accessed through the house and, again, the temptation to linger in the house is pretty strong if the weather is not great or in any household, to head inside if it starts raining. The important part is keeping the meetings outside where it is safer. I am sure garden meetings will come soon enough but these are the first steps and needed to be steps that could be rolled back quickly without reversing a massive change in mindset in the population if the figures start to rise so, for me, it will be a walk up to the local sports field for a chat.

Yup, inside houses is one of worst places for transmission. You are in a closed space for more than the 10 to 15mins and 2m might be hard to maintain.

 

[MegaSteve]

Herself not a happy lady... Seems the masses have taken Boris's announcement as the nod to resume shopping as family and friends groups... And, the shops, having previously been monitoring it in a professional manner, now not bothering to make any attempt to control it...

 

[PJ87]

Yup, inside houses is one of worst places for transmission. You are in a closed space for more than the 10 to 15mins and 2m might be hard to maintain.

However people's nannies and cleaners can go back to work (in there homes). Wear a face covering etc

Seen a few "jokes" going around twitter of people considering hiring their kids as cleaners so they can see them.

1st June may be "only" a few weeks away but even then what their saying is one family will be allowed to join another (maybe) to produce a bubble. But no more than one other .

4th July at earliest is when further restrictions may be lifted.

 

[PJ87]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52641373

My house is now for sale. By appointment only. Friends and family may view

 

[ColchesterFC]

Had an email from the kids school today explaining what will be happening when the school reopens. Part of the email mentions that social distancing won't be in place........

"It seems that children will not be socially distanced but instead be kept in insular groups of up to 15 children which will be kept separate from other groups in school, although how this will look at (*school name*) is very much undecided."

This seems another area where the rules are confused. A group of up to 16 people (15 kids and a teacher/support assistant) can be in a situation with no social distancing in an enclosed space, which we are told is the likeliest way to pass on the infection, and yet you aren't able to meet more than one person from another household in a park with social distancing measures in place.

 

[ExRabbit]

Had an email from the kids school today explaining what will be happening when the school reopens. Part of the email mentions that social distancing won't be in place........

"It seems that children will not be socially distanced but instead be kept in insular groups of up to 15 children which will be kept separate from other groups in school, although how this will look at (*school name*) is very much undecided."

This seems another area where the rules are confused. A group of up to 16 people (15 kids and a teacher/support assistant) can be in a situation with no social distancing in an enclosed space, which we are told is the likeliest way to pass on the infection, and yet you aren't able to meet more than one person from another household in a park with social distancing measures in place.

My wife is a teacher, and if this happens she won't be returning any time soon, as she would just take retirement a year or so before she had planned to do so at 60 at the earliest. She has parents who are in their mid 80's she hasn't seen for months, and so wants to give herself the best chance of seeing them as soon as possible. Mingling with 15 kids isn't something that would help that cause!

 

[chellie]

Had an email from the kids school today explaining what will be happening when the school reopens. Part of the email mentions that social distancing won't be in place........

"It seems that children will not be socially distanced but instead be kept in insular groups of up to 15 children which will be kept separate from other groups in school, although how this will look at (*school name*) is very much undecided."

This seems another area where the rules are confused. A group of up to 16 people (15 kids and a teacher/support assistant) can be in a situation with no social distancing in an enclosed space, which we are told is the likeliest way to pass on the infection, and yet you aren't able to meet more than one person from another household in a park with social distancing measures in place.

Was an interesting section on the BBC yesterday morning with a teacher from Copenhagen and a UK head talking about schooling. Not sure if it's online.

 

[AmandaJR]

Watched the second episode of Hospital. Words can't explain but it should be compulsory viewing. Usually the BBC tend to have this programme focus on political/NHS funding more than patient care but this was an insight into the impact of Covid on hospitals, staff and patients with no digs at all. It is simply an awful, awful disease and I feel so much more now for the staff and patients fighting it. I can only imagine how many of both groups are going to be affected physically and emotionally for a long, long time.

PPE grabbed all the headlines for so long and yet managing so much more - oxygen capacity and morgue space in particular wasn't highlighted (that I saw), perhaps because the government couldn't be held accountable and yet they were real-time issues because this disease is vicious and hospitals have never seen anything like it.

If you watch it be prepared, have a hanky to hand.

I'll be clapping and cheering even more loudly tomorrow at 8pm.

 

[MrHansonSmith]

Originally back in January we didnt think much would come of it and that it would be relativly well contained in China. Since then our Honeymoon has been cancelled (which is in Jan 2021), our wedding in October is touch and go weather or not it will go ahead or with a full guest list. 3 holidays have been cancelled.
Yeah its hard to get over.

 

[Deleted member 21258]

Watched the second episode of Hospital. Words can't explain but it should be compulsory viewing. Usually the BBC tend to have this programme focus on political/NHS funding more than patient care but this was an insight into the impact of Covid on hospitals, staff and patients with no digs at all. It is simply an awful, awful disease and I feel so much more now for the staff and patients fighting it. I can only imagine how many of both groups are going to be affected physically and emotionally for a long, long time.

PPE grabbed all the headlines for so long and yet managing so much more - oxygen capacity and morgue space in particular wasn't highlighted (that I saw), perhaps because the government couldn't be held accountable and yet they were real-time issues because this disease is vicious and hospitals have never seen anything like it.

If you watch it be prepared, have a hanky to hand.

I'll be clapping and cheering even more loudly tomorrow at 8pm.

Agreed, very moving program and interesting to see the battle they are fighting on many fronts to provide care.

The poor guy that ended up dying, you would never really guess he was so ill to look at him. Poor guy and his family

 

[AmandaJR]

Agreed, very moving program and interesting to see the battle they are fighting on many fronts to provide care.

The poor guy that ended up dying, you would never really guess he was so ill to look at him. Poor guy and his family

I know..I said out loud "oh Stanley" when they said he'd died. So sad especially as he had seemed to be improving. They have said that many don't really know they're quite ill and their SATS are dangerously low so can be late to seek help.

 

[SocketRocket]

However people's nannies and cleaners can go back to work (in there homes). Wear a face covering etc

Seen a few "jokes" going around twitter of people considering hiring their kids as cleaners so they can see them.

1st June may be "only" a few weeks away but even then what their saying is one family will be allowed to join another (maybe) to produce a bubble. But no more than one other .

4th July at earliest is when further restrictions may be lifted.

I've seen nothing suggesting cleaners or nannies can resume work.

The Government have laid out what will be allowed at each stage of their plan conditional on infections being lower. I've not seen anything about bubble groups in their document.

 

[chrisd]

I've seen nothing suggesting cleaners or nannies can resume work.

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It was certainly being shown as "breaking news" on BBC yesterday or the previous day

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Agreed, very moving program and interesting to see the battle they are fighting on many fronts to provide care.

The poor guy that ended up dying, you would never really guess he was so ill to look at him. Poor guy and his family

Got it to watch on catch up but sounds a very good account of the daily battles being faced on wards as wells as specialist areas like ICU and the guy dying, sadly is a stark realisation about how quickly these patients can go downhill and how much damage the disease can cause. I'll try and grab a look tonight. I've watched most of this series and the previous ones and it has always been really good at highlighting issues like bed blocking, lack of theatre space and a host of other issues most trusts face on a daily basis

 

[Deleted member 21258]

I've seen nothing suggesting cleaners or nannies can resume work.

snip.

Government website is your friend tbh and all simply laid out in the FAQ, thumbs up for the government for that:-

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-outbreak-faqs-what-you-can-and-cant-do/coronavirus-outbreak-faqs-what-you-can-and-cant-do

Information is out there :-

3.1 Who is allowed to go to work?
In the first instance, employers should make every effort to support working from home, including by providing suitable IT and equipment as they have been already. This will apply to many different types of businesses, particularly those who typically would have worked in offices or online.

Where work can only be done in the workplace, we have set out tailored guidelines for employers to help protect their workforce and customers from coronavirus while still continuing to trade or getting their business back up and running. We have published detailed COVID-19 secure guidelines, which has been developed in consultation with businesses and trades unions.

These ‘back to work’ guidelines apply to those in essential retail like:

• supermarkets
• those in construction and manufacturing
• those working in labs and research facilities
• those administering takeaways and deliveries at restaurants and cafes
• tradesmen, cleaners and others who work in people’s homes
• those who are facilitating trade or transport goods
• and so on

Non-essential retail, restaurants, pubs, bars, gyms and leisure centres will remain closed. They will reopen in a phased manner provided it is safe to do so.

There are specific guidelines for those who are vulnerable, shielding, or showing

 

[PJ87]

I've seen nothing suggesting cleaners or nannies can resume work.

The Government have laid out what will be allowed at each stage of their plan conditional on infections being lower. I've not seen anything about bubble groups in their document.

Must not have read the 51 page document

Under social and family contact

 

[AmandaJR]

Today was my first "outing" since lockdown began. I've taken my car out twice but otherwise it's been cycling/walking from home. The dog trainers have started single lessons with social distancing in their large field so we took the dogs. It felt so good to be doing something and just talking to other people and I felt really flat when we finished the lesson. Makes you realise how much you've missed for several weeks.

I now have a really sore throat from talking and shouting (to the dogs!)...need to build my larynx up a bit

 

[Slab]

17th consecutive day with no new cases and no one seeking treatment
Please let this continue