Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

[Doodle]

I think you're deluded.

The only exit strategy is coming out of lockdown. There will be no vaccine for approx 18 months they say.

Deluded?
How is what I said deluded?
I except a vaccine is 18 months to 2 years away.
Once we come out of lockdown, even with extra measures put in place, infections will most likely soar again.
Hence building the Nightingale hospitals.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Had a lovely lockdown picnic (in the garden) with the wife and little lady

Making most of the lovely weather

Nap time (more quiet time these days lol she doesn't nap just Lays down) and Netflix for us

 

[ferenezejohn]

Human trials to begin within the next 2 weeks.
And we don't need to wait for 66 million doses, we just need enough to treat those people who are high risk and maybe stop so many people from dying which in my book is good news

What I read is they can start mass production before the trials are finished and if it's good news then they have a head start. What is there to lose.

 

[drdel]

I'm surprised any of you lot leave the house the state you're getting yourselves in

On a 'normal' day in January about 1,750 die; not sure how many of those deaths might now be coded as covid19 victims so would have died anyway: so looks like the virus is raising the death rate by about 30+%.

Unfortunately the fact is that this new virus is well established in the global population and a lot people will continue to die for many more months. If one wanted to be ruthlessly economic it might soon be 'cheaper' to lift restrictions on companies/work once the NHS capacity has risen. Then we assume that those who unfortunately catch the virus seriously can hopefully be given adequate care and the death rate kept as low as 'practical' until the vaccine can be rolled out to give longer term mitigation and 'control' fatalities.

 

[JustOne]

Given the crass stupidity and downright recklessness of so many, I can assure you the police have been anything but heavy handed.

I'm not complaining about the police although there have been a few instances that I wouldn't necessarily agree with.
My post was just how much complaining/whinging/press coverage we see about people leaving shops with tins of paint etc
If the government says that it's OK for a shop to sell whatever stock it has on it's shelves, then it should be OK.

Yes you could question the necessity of the journey but technically as long as everyone is observing social distancing rules it shouldn't boost the spread of corona regardless of how many tins of paint/compost/plants/BBQs are being bought right now.

 

[Slime]

As above.
If the authorities don't want us to buy non-essential items, just stop the shops from selling them.
Job done.
It really is that simple ................................ isn't it?

 

[Fish]

I'm not complaining about the police although there have been a few instances that I wouldn't necessarily agree with.
My post was just how much complaining/whinging/press coverage we see about people leaving shops with tins of paint etc
If the government says that it's OK for a shop to sell whatever stock it has on it's shelves, then it should be OK.

Yes you could question the necessity of the journey but technically as long as everyone is observing social distancing rules it shouldn't boost the spread of corona regardless of how many tins of paint/compost/plants/BBQs are being bought right now.

It’s not just the journey, it’s the amount of products in those stores that get picked up, you touch and put back on the shelf, only for someone else then to pick them up, that’s possibly loads of potential cross contamination!!

 

[JustOne]

Those that say there is no exit strategy?
I disagree, it seems to me that the plan all along has been to impose to lockdown to allow the time to build the Nightingale hospitals, then to have a partial lifting of the lockdown.
All the while hoping that either an existing drug would be found to effectively treat the virus or a vaccine could be developed.
Otherwise, why build the Nightingale hospitals?

I'm not sure the numbers add up right now for ANY exit strategy however my suggestion of why build the nightingales is so that we can put corona cases in them so that 'normal' hospitals are able to resume their normal practice (operations, cancer treatment etc)

 

[JustOne]

It’s not just the journey, it’s the amount of products in those stores that get picked up, you touch and put back on the shelf, only for someone else then to pick them up, that’s possibly loads of potential cross contamination!!

I agree, I work in one of those places, but I can wear golves, wash my hands etc

If staff AND customers behave correctly there is no difference someone coming to buy a tin of paint as there is someone coming to buy paracetamol.

 

[SocketRocket]

Deluded?
How is what I said deluded?
I except a vaccine is 18 months to 2 years away.
Once we come out of lockdown, even with extra measures put in place, infections will most likely soar again.
Hence building the Nightingale hospitals.

I read an article today that a research team at oxford university are now 80% sure that a vaccine they have developed could possibly be available by September this year.

Just found it :
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/news...-coronavirus-vaccine-by-september/ar-BB12tjDy

 

[Swinglowandslow]

I read an article today that a research team at oxford university are now 80% sure that a vaccine they have developed could possibly be available bu September this year.

IIRC didn't the development of a vaccine for Ebola get fastracked to be available long before the normal timeline?
In circumstances like these you can bet that bureaucratic "steps" are put aside and a vaccine will be pushed as hard as the science will allow.
As in war," routine "people whose views did dictate the pace , are replaced .
Necessity is.......etc

 

[Fish]

I agree, I work in one of those places, but I can wear golves, wash my hands etc

If staff AND customers behave correctly there is no difference someone coming to buy a tin of paint as there is someone coming to buy paracetamol.

But wearing gloves all the time isn’t a deterrent, as you’d still potentially spread it by touching multiple items wearing the same gloves!

Gloves are not sterile to the virus, they simply allow you to handle something safely then you remove them afterwards.

This is an issue I have doing multiple deliveries, do I put on a new pair of gloves for each delivery?

 

[Deleted member 21784]

IIRC didn't the development of a vaccine for Ebola get fastracked to be available long before the normal timeline?
In circumstances like these you can bet that bureaucratic "steps" are put aside and a vaccine will be pushed as hard as the science will allow.
As in war," routine "people whose views did dictate the pace , are replaced .
Necessity is.......etc

Someone at work (who reads into a lot of this stuff) was telling me is something to do with a vaccine that was in development for SARRS (or swine flu) but as it got to trial stages it was shelved as the virus died out

So as they are all a form of coronvirus they share a lot of the same characteristics so they started with it again to test or something on those lines

 

[ferenezejohn]

Hand washing, if everyone thoroughly washed their hands before shopping they won't contaminate anything unless they have the virus.
When I was shopping I had antibacterial wipes and a disinfectant spray in the car hands were cleaned and trolley handle cleaned on entering shop and same on leaving.
That should be the norm.

 

[bobmac]

I read an article today that a research team at oxford university are now 80% sure that a vaccine they have developed could possibly be available by September this year.

Just found it :
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/news...-coronavirus-vaccine-by-september/ar-BB12tjDy

See post no. 4928
Sadly the vaccine experts on here said it would still take 18 months to 2 years before a vaccine could be found.
Given the choice and being an optimist, I'll go with Sara Gilbert, Professor of vaccinology at Oxford University.

 

[BrianM]

An up and down day for me, no energy or appetite all morning and early afternoon.
Feel slightly better now and ordered some dinner.
Have been told company aren’t bothered about getting me tested as I’m in self isolation anyway.....
Another boy got tested on Thursday and is positive as well.
We have also made the Press and Journal newspaper. ??

 

[Hacker Khan]

I hear Priti Patel was on the daily update today. Missed it myself so could anyone confirm that she managed to get through it without threatening to deport many of the people that are keeping this country going at the moment? Also hear Rees-Mogg is lined up for one next week where he will share some investment opportunities he's noticed among the death and misery. Every cloud and all that.

 

[Mudball]

Did

I hear Priti Patel was on the daily update today. Missed it myself so could anyone confirm that she managed to get through it without threatening to deport many of the people that are keeping this country going at the moment? Also hear Rees-Mogg is lined up for one next week where he will share some investment opportunities he's noticed among the death and misery. Every cloud and all that.

Did not know that Deport Patel was on today... will have to find out on iplayer

 

[Old Skier]

But wearing gloves all the time isn’t a deterrent, as you’d still potentially spread it by touching multiple items wearing the same gloves!

Gloves are not sterile to the virus, they simply allow you to handle something safely then you remove them afterwards.

This is an issue I have doing multiple deliveries, do I put on a new pair of gloves for each delivery?

 

[Deleted member 21784]

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I saw one other day at petrol pump

One glove only

Then used his non gloved hand to do the chip and pin in the pay at machine

Oh because nobody touched that