Well, what a day, positive cases confirmed on rig, one person who I directly work with, getting off tomorrow to self isolate in a hotel, if I haven’t got it, it will be a miracle.
Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?
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Crazyface
Tour Winner
I know people don't get most of my posts. But please can I ask a question without a barrage of abuse? Coz I really am not getting this.
How will testing in either form (have got it / have had it) make things better / reduce the amount of infection and spread?
Just seen this on the news tonight and the correspondant or whatever his title is said most earnestly how Germany had tested the hell out of this and their rate of infection was amazing lower then everywhere else, but did not say why.
So why?
How will testing in either form (have got it / have had it) make things better / reduce the amount of infection and spread?
Just seen this on the news tonight and the correspondant or whatever his title is said most earnestly how Germany had tested the hell out of this and their rate of infection was amazing lower then everywhere else, but did not say why.
So why?
ColchesterFC
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Testing will be useful for key workers (particularly NHS staff) who are currently isolating if they or a family member have symptoms. If they are tested and don't have it they can return to work. If they are tested for antibodies and are shown that they have previously had it they can also return to work.
As for testing large numbers of people and having a lower rate of infection, isn't that just down to statistics? If you test 100000 people and get 5000 positive tests you have an infection rate of 5%. If you do what the UK had been doing and only testing those admitted to hospital you are testing a far lower number of people, say 20000 tested and 5000 positive results is a 25% infection rate. That's why the total number of new cases being recorded each day can't be used for any kind of analysis at the minute. Without testing large numbers of people you have absolutely no idea how high the infection rate is.
Blue in Munich
Crocked Professional Yeti Impersonator
To answer your first question, if you post what appears to be a barrage of abuse is it a huge surprise when you get a barrage of abuse in response?
As to Germany, if you test more than most nations, you will catch more people with few or no symptoms. Let's say 10% of every population has it. If Germany tests everyone regardless of symptoms, they will have a 10% infection rate. If the UK only tests those with Covid 19 symptoms then it will eliminate those who are not infected from testing which will raise the rate of infection amongst those tested above 10%.
Their test also looks for signs that a person is about to go into decline; if they are, they get them into hospital to treat them proactively, thus increasing the survival rate. Using the test to confirm the presence of Covid 19 will mean that potentially the patient is already up
creek without a paddle & reactive treatment may not be sufficient to save them.
BubbaP
Occasional Player of Golf
Based on the statistics being shared it suggests there is more to it than just numbers of tests.
Switzerland shows more tests relative to population size than Germany but differing outcomes.
I think I read Germany tested hard early (suggestion that a high number of younger folk picked it up at ski resorts), and early tracing helped with early isolation to slow the initial spread.
Switzerland shows more tests relative to population size than Germany but differing outcomes.
I think I read Germany tested hard early (suggestion that a high number of younger folk picked it up at ski resorts), and early tracing helped with early isolation to slow the initial spread.
Wolf
Well-known member
Not Covid-19 per se but the lockdown has massively effected Mrs Wolf last couple of days being unable to go anywhere has really started to get to her lots of tears this evening just wanting it over to be able to get back to a normal semblance of life, see family, see my little ones and just see everyone being able to live a normal life.
Shes had me trawling the Internet for a PS4 or Xbox One on offer so she can join in with the kids and play some online games with them.l for some interaction with them. I have to admit I had taken for granted how close she is to my kids as their step mum she does so much with them when they're here but I was so focused in me missing them I hadn't thought how she felt not seeing them, today has proved how gutted she is. I guess I'll end up buying a console from somewhere next couple of days just so she can feel like she's interacting with them a bit more whilst I'm working.
Shes had me trawling the Internet for a PS4 or Xbox One on offer so she can join in with the kids and play some online games with them.l for some interaction with them. I have to admit I had taken for granted how close she is to my kids as their step mum she does so much with them when they're here but I was so focused in me missing them I hadn't thought how she felt not seeing them, today has proved how gutted she is. I guess I'll end up buying a console from somewhere next couple of days just so she can feel like she's interacting with them a bit more whilst I'm working.
Golfmmad
Tour Winner
Might be an obvious question but does she do Facetime with them?
Wolf
Well-known member
Yeah she has been but she feels like she's still missing out and wants to have some fun interaction as well as just seeing them. Think that's what caused it as she was on Facetime with the girls today and they were playing a game on a console at their mums and said they wish she could play to. Her and my youngest are really close as known her since she was a mere 2 year old and was the youngest asked if she could play to ??
GB72
Money List Winner
Mate, not sure how to work this logistically with lockdown etc but I may have an old Xbox one you could have as I upgraded mine to an X about a year ago. If it helps your other half cope, it is going to a good home. Not looking for money or anything. You know I am relatively local
Golfmmad
Tour Winner
Yeah she has been but she feels like she's still missing out and wants to have some fun interaction as well as just seeing them. Think that's what caused it as she was on Facetime with the girls today and they were playing a game on a console at their mums and said they wish she could play to. Her and my youngest are really close as known her since she was a mere 2 year old and was the youngest asked if she could play to ??
I can understand how she must feel as I have 2 stepdaughters who are older and have their own children. So i have 4 grand children and miss them terribly, even though one step daughter lives only 5 minutes down the road.
Its nice to hear that she gets so well with your kids as often thats unfortunately not always the case.
So we're both lucky from that point of view.
Wolf
Well-known member
That sir is a very kind offer. If I can work out the logistics I will certainly be interested in taking that offer up, I'd have to give you something for it though.
Wolf
Well-known member
I agree it makes us both very lucky indeed, they have a great relationship and that makes it all that much more harder right now seeing her upset as well.I can understand how she must feel as I have 2 stepdaughters who are older and have their own children. So i have 4 grand children and miss them terribly, even though one step daughter lives only 5 minutes down the road.
Its nice to hear that she gets so well with your kids as often thats unfortunately not always the case.
So we're both lucky from that point of view.
GB72
Money List Winner
Nope will not accept a thing. At that stage in my life where a bit if good karma is worth everything. Cannot remember exactly where you are but I am just outside Grantham but in Melton 2-3 days a week at the moment if easier. Will check it works and factory reset it over the Easter weekend and we can work on a plan from there
Italian outcast
Hacker
I work with people there on a daily basis - they are well aware how serious it is for them
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Probably mentioned in all other answers. But on antibody testing in general. Mass antibody testing will tell us how many of us have had the virus. This will enable decisions to be made on relaxation of constraints on movement etc. Taking to an extreme - if mass antibody testing shows that, say, 90% of us have already had the virus - then the risk of a severe and difficult to control further outbreak will be very low. We’ve mostly all had it. If mass antibody testing shows only 10% have had it then still too soon to lift restrictions as risk of further outbreak too high.
It’s when the % is in between that the decision is difficult - which it will be.
HowlingGale
Head Pro
This is one of my issues with this. Doctors and nurses seem to get all of the press attention, but there's all sorts of other staff being exposed to this every minute of every day.
There's porters, nursing assistants, cleaners, ward clerks who don't earn very much at all. Then there's the physios and radiographers etc.
After all this is done I hope we realise who kept us all going in these troubling times. All those delivery drivers and supermarket workers etc. Heck even the bin men, but not seen much of them lately ?.
Agree 100%
It is actually the housekeeping staff who I feel sorriest for. Many don't have English as a first language and they don't seem to be getting clear instructions on what masks to wear in which areas, when they need PPE etc and are working tirelessly and being exposed. At least our physios and radiographers have a degree of medical knowledge and so are more adept at assessing when they need full PPE or can use mask and gloves.
Again shop workers are putting themselves at risk dealing with the public everyday and are doing a great job in difficult situations. We are still getting our regular bin collections every Monday although they are all in gloves and masks
Wolf
Well-known member
Then I shall find a way to pass on a bit that good Karma myself by doing something for others as well. Thats amazingly kind of you. I'm in Billinghay so not far away at all, I'll work out the logistics over the weekend and drop you msg. Really kind of you GB.
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I get the lockdown may get worse, I get we are being asked to do our bit, then why are we still allowing Planes full of people to arrive in this Country from all over the World unchecked.
Even the ones bringing our own back are not being checked properly and are being advised to self isolate for 2 weeks, surely any passengers, from arriving from overseas, should be tested either before they depart or here before they leave the airport.
A lot of these people could easily be leaving the airports on public transport and spreading this!
Even the ones bringing our own back are not being checked properly and are being advised to self isolate for 2 weeks, surely any passengers, from arriving from overseas, should be tested either before they depart or here before they leave the airport.
A lot of these people could easily be leaving the airports on public transport and spreading this!
Slime
Tour Winner
............................... and this is why I love this forum.
Good on you both.