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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Jacko_G said:
Just another sad example if how selfish and obnoxious the British public are when you get attitudes like you say.

While I feel for my two I know it's in their best interests and I'm doing it as I love them. They in return understand what is going on and why the lockdown is in place.
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You have taught them why this is nessesary!
Unfortunately in a lot of families it’s the parents that’s the problem.!
 
clubchamp98 said:
You have taught them why this is nessesary!
Unfortunately in a lot of families it’s the parents that’s the problem.!
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Of course I have as I believe they're both of an age to understand what is happening and both are aware of the virus.

I (we) believe it's right to be transparent as they see what is happening online.
 
Police patroling parks and play area's in Sneck. was coming past Whinn park with the dog and 3 got ot of a car and went in. there was a group of teenagers sitting on a bench, but they were still there on the way back. Also a police van went past the Islands car park, stopped and looked at the half dozen cars sat there and one more turned up parked got out and walked a dog.

TBH i'm wondering why they are bothering if they are not going to do anything about people ignoring the lock down and not driving around.
 
patricks148 said:
Police patroling parks and play area's in Sneck. was coming past Whinn park with the dog and 3 got ot of a car and went in. there was a group of teenagers sitting on a bench, but they were still there on the way back. Also a police van went past the Islands car park, stopped and looked at the half dozen cars sat there and one more turned up parked got out and walked a dog.

TBH i'm wondering why they are bothering if they are not going to do anything about people ignoring the lock down and not driving around.
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My policeman mate told me that they've been given the power to issue fines, but they can't do on the spot ones because they don't have the tickets to hand yet so it takes 4 weeks to put it through. Or something like that anyway. Perhaps they're only going to do it in extreme circumstances if it's a hassle.
 
I had a look at data for hours last night as I couldn't sleep. It's really, really, really depressing reading.

Jist of it is:
If/when LEDC's start reporting, death toll will be in 10's of millions. There's a mix of it not hitting those areas yet as there's minimal links to China and/or the reporting isn't valid as their healthcare systems are absolutely awful.
Switzerland is probably the best country in the west to deal with this, they look to have peaked just in time. However if something happens and active cases increase again, they cannot cope. If they can't cope, we don't stand a chance.
You need to take China's "data" out of most analysis, it really is an absolute joke.

I thought I would see some hope doing some analysis. but doing so you realise how FUBAR it is for the world, no one has enough tests, no one has enough ventilators or beds. you can't use case data as it's not accurate at all. The government needs to release some data, then people will see how terrifying this is. Although some won't be able to handle the truth. Johnson was right, a huge amount of people will die, and we can't help them.

In reality, unless there is a FULL household lockdown with no transmissions for a full duration of the transmission period of the disease, with a lock down of all borders until a vaccine. There is absolutely no way to stop it currently. And that wouldn't work even here, as some selfish *** would ruin it. We don't even know how the disease works well enough to be confident enough to do the lockdown.

I'm not going to use herd immunity as a term, but the only way we can get back to normal is that everyone gets it. And we hope you can't be reinfected. A disease passport system would bring back some normality to life, but we need antibody tests that aren't accurate enough and available yet. I'm not sure what percentage of the population would have to have it in order to not overwhelm the NHS, but it's not 50% probably closer to 80-90%. The amount of intensive care is too much, both in levels of staff and time in the ICU.
 
DanFST said:
In reality, unless there is a FULL household lockdown with no transmissions for a full duration of the transmission period of the disease, with a lock down of all borders until a vaccine. There is absolutely no way to stop it currently. And that wouldn't work even here, as some selfish *** would ruin it. We don't even know how the disease works well enough to be confident enough to do the lockdown.

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Lock down doesn't stop the virus.
We are locked down to slow the spread.
The longer the lock down, the longer the threat takes to subside.
We have already been told by numerous experts that it is likely 60% - 80% of the population will contract it.
Iceland have done plenty testing per ca-pita and results show 50% of positive tests are asymptomatic.

YOU REALLY NEED TO CALM DOWN.
 
Had my first emotional wobble about this last night. Mother of a chap in our Dept died of it on Sunday, wife's cousin currently has it and then we see the MP taken into ICU.

Struggled to get to sleep, so played St Enodoc in my head on a warm summer evening... last remember putting on the 8th and fell asleep about that time...
 
IanM said:
Had my first emotional wobble about this last night. Mother of a chap in our Dept died of it on Sunday, wife's cousin currently has it and then we see the MP taken into ICU.

Struggled to get to sleep, so played St Enodoc in my head on a warm summer evening... last remember putting on the 8th and fell asleep about that time...
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Dq for leaving the course early...
Stay strong.
It's ok to not be ok.
I've had a few wobbles. They pass.
 
drdel said:
Peak in 10 days or so. Infections dwindling over the next following 2 or 3 weeks. Just my opinion from the data profiles I've seen.

I'd add my wishes of a recovery for the PM.
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But how extended will the peak be - or will it actually be more like a plateau with maybe a gentle drop off for some time before a more significant fall?
 
IanM said:
Had my first emotional wobble about this last night. Mother of a chap in our Dept died of it on Sunday, wife's cousin currently has it and then we see the MP taken into ICU.

Struggled to get to sleep, so played St Enodoc in my head on a warm summer evening... last remember putting on the 8th and fell asleep about that time...
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I had my first wobble too hearing about Boris in ICU. As soon as I woke I put the TV on with some trepidation and for once was happy to see the dippy sports presenter talking her usual twaddle.
 
AmandaJR said:
I had my first wobble too hearing about Boris in ICU. As soon as I woke I put the TV on with some trepidation and for once was happy to see the dippy sports presenter talking her usual twaddle.
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Just imagine the virus as a steamroller. It doesn't travel very well without a driver, and it travels so slowly you can sidestep it providing you do the right things. Simplify it to that level and its not that frightening. Be calm, be patient and you'll be sipping prosecco in the garden with friends in the summer.
 
Hobbit said:
Just imagine the virus as a steamroller. It doesn't travel very well without a driver, and it travels so slowly you can sidestep it providing you do the right things. Simplify it to that level and its not that frightening. Be calm, be patient and you'll be sipping prosecco in the garden with friends in the summer.
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I'll stick to a cuppa though.
 
HappyHacker1 said:
Lock down doesn't stop the virus.
We are locked down to slow the spread.
The longer the lock down, the longer the threat takes to subside.
We have already been told by numerous experts that it is likely 60% - 80% of the population will contract it.
Iceland have done plenty testing per ca-pita and results show 50% of positive tests are asymptomatic.

YOU REALLY NEED TO CALM DOWN.
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re: lockdown - read what I said, our current lockdown doesn't stop a virus yes, but that's not what I said.
re: threat subsiding - read what I said, the threat to us doesn't subside until the 80-90% of the UK get it. In LEDC's that number will be even higher.
Iceland's test sample was under 20k.....

I'm working with a friend, we normally do historical cricket data as fun, but have shifted to this. We're not experts by any means, he's a PHD Epidemiologist (his division is Musculoskelatal Science) and I do financial modelling. Whats your expertise, whats your conclusion? If there's any great data sources we might have missed, please share!
 
DanFST said:
re: lockdown - read what I said, our current lockdown doesn't stop a virus yes, but that's not what I said.
re: threat subsiding - read what I said, the threat to us doesn't subside until the 80-90% of the UK get it. In LEDC's that number will be even higher.
Iceland's test sample was under 20k.....

I'm working with a friend, we normally do historical cricket data as fun, but have shifted to this. We're not experts by any means, he's a PHD Epidemiologist (his division is Musculoskelatal Science) and I do financial modelling. Whats your expertise, whats your conclusion? If there's any great data sources we might have missed, please share!
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Lockdown certainly doesn't get rid of the virus, to me it is just to much out there in the world for it to go away.....can help to flatten and prolong it.

Keep searching and reading especially on science or medical sites, there is some great stuff happening and for me its been great reading about and very promising. Used to love chemistry at A level :ROFLMAO: and reminded me how much I love the subject and 'studying' it, wish I had done my degree in it.

One game changer tho, could be getting better medicine to fight the virus, if you become infected. So recovery is quicker, the virus is less potent and it will save lives. Vaccine is the dream but depends on many things and really is a pipe dream at the moment, as it is just to early to say.

Quite a number of promising drugs to fight the virus on more equal terms are being trialled and expect them to get fast tracked trails etc. Some of the SARS/MERS/other viral drugs sound really promising but time will tell...

Already told the wife, if I get it and I get it bad, then sign me up for the medical trials, as would like to help the advancement for others, even if it is to late for me.
 
Spain;

RECOVERED;

Tuesday 31st March.........19.259 (+ 2479)
Wednesday 1st April........22.647 (+3.338)
Thursday 2nd April..........26.743 (+4.096)
Friday 3rd April ...............30.513 (+3.770)
Saturday 4th April...........34.219 (+3.706)
Sunday 5th April..............38.080 (+3861)
Monday 6th April.............40.437(+ 2.357)
Tuesday 7th April.............43.208 (+2771)

INFECTED;

Tuesday 31st March.........94.417 (+9222)
Wednesday 1st April.......102.136 (+7.719)
Thursday 2nd April.........110.238 (+8.102)
Friday 3rd April ..............117.710 (+7.472)
Saturday 4th April..........124.736 (+7.026)
Sunday 5th April.............130.759 (+6.023)
Monday 6th April.............135.032 (+4.273)
Tuesday 7th April.............140.510 (+5.478)

DEATHS;

Tuesday 31st March.........8.189 (+849)
Wednesday 1st April........9.053 (+864)
Thursday 2nd April.........10.003 (+950)
Friday 3rd April ..............10.935 (+932)
Saturday 4th April...........11.744 (+809)
Sunday 5th April.............12.414 (+674)
Monday 6th April.............13.055 (+641)
Tuesday 7th April.............13.798 (+743)
 
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