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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Was called in for a Skype meeting 40 min ago with head of our department, director and HR and was asked to take furlough until 31st May. 2 weeks or so would’ve been one thing, but this long.

Doesn’t feel good at all tbh. Some may know that I’ve had some issues in the past at work, but still feel a bit down and lots of thoughts running in my head.
 
DRW said:
Lockdown certainly doesn't get rid of the virus, to me it is just to much out there in the world for it to go away.....can help to flatten and prolong it.
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In practise you are right, as I said. You'd need a full Isolation for the incubation period + duration the disease was transmittable (that's not 100% certain yet). And then further time for internal household transmission. Then completely closed borders. By full that would mean no one outside, not even NHS staff. Its not physically possible, but that's the only way you could have normality back in the UK until a vaccine. (unless you were a pilot, worked in international trade etc...)

HappyHacker1 said:
But it's relevant to their population so gives, I assume, excellent data for most.
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The sample is too small to take any data from.Not sure what you mean by relevancy to population. It's just over 5% of their population, but tourists are included in that. In case you didn't know Iceland has normally 7 tourists to 1 Islandia. Flights were still going into March. basically there's nothing out of that data.
 
I think unless you've been directly affected by this already then the UK's PM suffering from it and going into ICU is a huge reality check for many of us regardless of the residual extent we've all been feeling to date

Makes recent headlines/behaviour about bog-rolls and pasta seems ridiculous
 
Lilyhawk said:
Was called in for a Skype meeting 40 min ago with head of our department, director and HR and was asked to take furlough until 31st May. 2 weeks or so would’ve been one thing, but this long.

Doesn’t feel good at all tbh. Some may know that I’ve had some issues in the past at work, but still feel a bit down and lots of thoughts running in my head.
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Sorry, that sucks. Hopefully you can live on the 80%?

If so take it as a bit of RnR then you'll be killling it when you go back!
 
DanFST said:
Sorry, that sucks. Hopefully you can live on the 80%?

If so take it as a bit of RnR then you'll be killling it when you go back!
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Actually, our company pays up the difference, so will get 100% which is positive. I just don’t know what to do all day long. Live in a one bedroom flat with my gf who’s working from home. No garden or anything.
 
Lilyhawk said:
Was called in for a Skype meeting 40 min ago with head of our department, director and HR and was asked to take furlough until 31st May. 2 weeks or so would’ve been one thing, but this long.

Doesn’t feel good at all tbh. Some may know that I’ve had some issues in the past at work, but still feel a bit down and lots of thoughts running in my head.
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That seems excessive. I don't know your industry but how can they know that far ahead? I know they can cancel it with short notice but why not do a rolling 3-4 weeks at a time?

The upside, something to hold onto, is that there is a decent chance, again depending on your industry, that you will be back well before then.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
That seems excessive. I don't know your industry but how can they know that far ahead? I know they can cancel it with short notice but why not do a rolling 3-4 weeks at a time?

The upside, something to hold onto, is that there is a decent chance, again depending on your industry, that you will be back well before then.
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I should’ve been clearer saying that they did say that 31 May is the starting point. If/as things change, so will the date of my return change.

Sports gambling, so when the sport calendar is getting filled up again...
 
Lilyhawk said:
Actually, our company pays up the difference, so will get 100%, so that’s the positive. I just don’t know what to do all day long. Live in a one bedroom flat with my gf who’s working from home. No garden or anything.
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Take up a hobby? My dad bought himself a keyboard to learn. I've been playing much more acoustic guitar and recording terrible covers to post on Facebook. :LOL: I also revisited Red Dead Redemption 2 which uses up a lot of time.

I'm still working from home though as well to be fair. If I wasn't my wife would have driven me mental by now. She's already coming up with 101 things for me to do as it is.
 
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On one bright note. Clear blue sky here - not one aircraft or con trail in sight. Reminds me how we all take things for granted up until the point its taken away - stay healthy !!
 
Lilyhawk said:
I should’ve been clearer saying that they did say that 31 May is the starting point. If/as things change, so will the date of my return change.

Sports gambling, so when the sport calendar is getting filled up again...
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I'm sure sport will begin in some form before then, partly for tv puroposes, partly for the gambling industry which is massive in this country. There may not be spectators involved but I can see certain sports adapting and starting up again.
 
DanFST said:
The sample is too small to take any data from.Not sure what you mean by relevancy to population. It's just over 5% of their population, but tourists are included in that. In case you didn't know Iceland has normally 7 tourists to 1 Islandia. Flights were still going into March. basically there's nothing out of that data.
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Name me another country that's tested 5% of their population ? and I very much doubt there will be many tourists around for the past month.

7 tourists per 1 Islandia ? So you're telling me there is 4.4 million people wandering around Iceland, nonsense. btw, I've been, 10 days in 2016.
 
Lilyhawk said:
Actually, our company pays up the difference, so will get 100% which is positive. I just don’t know what to do all day long. Live in a one bedroom flat with my gf who’s working from home. No garden or anything.
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That must be tough.
Get your exercise everyday.
It’s not normal for us to be stuck indoors and for a golfer even worse.
But it’s abnormal times and won’t last forever.
Sit down close your eyes and think , is there something I have always wanted to do.
Play an instrument ( not drums) etc and if you can go for it.
 
Just looking into the mortgage stuff.
They will charge interest for the holiday period.
Doesn’t look like the Banks are actually being compliant enough. It should be frozen completely. The government has said no evictions for non paying tenants.. a decision made without agreement of the landlords and owners. I am sympathetic to tenants with their loss of income, utterly and completely. But the Banks are not, as they have just avoided a loss ... it’s a disgrace we have all lost and that should be equitable .. we are all in this together!!!! (Apparently!?!)
 
HappyHacker1 said:
Name me another country that's tested 5% of their population ? and I very much doubt there will be many tourists around for the past month.

7 tourists per 1 Islandia ? So you're telling me there is 4.4 million people wandering around Iceland, nonsense. btw, I've been, 10 days in 2016.
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That's obviously per year. So just over 2 million a year.

You obviously don't deal with data, so I won't go into much detail apart from these questions.

- What information can you gain from a country with 1,562 cases, even with their exceptional testing by your standards. (just over 1/10th of the total cases in London 3 days ago where there is no testing until hospitalisation)
- What information can you gain from a country with a population of 3.5269 per sq. Km compared to the Uk's 430 per sq. Km, or Londons 4542 per sq. Km. Given that this spreads by contact.

If you can answer those. Happy to exchange ideas, but I wouldn't tell me to calm down with 0 research. I'm perfectly calm, there is just no way in practise to fix this or protect everyone until a vaccine. People should know this is gonna be a long haul.
 
drdel said:
On one bright note. Clear blue sky here - not one aircraft or con trail in sight. Reminds me how we all take things for granted up until the point its taken away - stay healthy !!
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Remember Joni Mitchell's song from 1970 - Big Yellow Taxi?
And, back in the 80s, a California based consultant we used told stories of the 'Malathion Parties' he and others would have to avoid being sprayed in their various SF valeys during the Fruit Fly epedemic.
Nothing really changes - probably because humans are, generally, forward/future looking animals and only consider past events when forced to.
As a result, 'progress' happens very (relatively) quickly. But some of the consequences of such progress can also be (perhaps unexpectedly) negative or even be 'catastrophic'! A vast increase in the variety and availability of goods is in the 'progress' category, while the effects of human generated global warming are in the 'catastrophic' one!
 
DanFST said:
That's obviously per year. So just over 2 million a year.

You obviously don't deal with data, so I won't go into much detail apart from these questions.

- What information can you gain from a country with 1,562 cases, even with their exceptional testing by your standards. (just over 1/10th of the total cases in London 3 days ago where there is no testing until hospitalisation)
- What information can you gain from a country with a population of 3.5269 per sq. Km compared to the Uk's 430 per sq. Km, or Londons 4542 per sq. Km. Given that this spreads by contact.

If you can answer those. Happy to exchange ideas, but I wouldn't tell me to calm down with 0 research. I'm perfectly calm, there is just no way in practise to fix this or protect everyone until a vaccine. People should know this is gonna be a long haul.
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Your 7 - 1 ratio post didn't say it was per year so obviously I took you to task on it, it implied at one time. I accept that Iceland and their population is sparse and the likes of London is dense, my point on their test sample was, 50% were asymptomatic so figures we get particularly from the UK are only based on positive test within hospitals, so it portrays a much worse state than in reality of probably infections.

I don't have the answers, but the initial post of yours I quoted came over, to me anyway as if we were about to face world obliteration, which clearly isn't the case. I do agree whatever info come out of China can be taken with a pinch of salt, however, it's so typical of us in the west to believe everything we are told yet rubbish what certain other countries tell us, funny that isn't it.

If folk don't think this is going to be a long haul then they obviously haven't been listening, we've been getting told that for months now, not weeks.
 
DanFST said:
In practise you are right, as I said. You'd need a full Isolation for the incubation period + duration the disease was transmittable (that's not 100% certain yet). And then further time for internal household transmission. Then completely closed borders. By full that would mean no one outside, not even NHS staff. Its not physically possible, but that's the only way you could have normality back in the UK until a vaccine. (unless you were a pilot, worked in international trade etc...)

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Pretty much what I and Justone was posting about the other day on the Essential Services thread. Been wrestling with the big picture(and/or end game) for weeks now and only see medium to long term solutions.

The complete lockdown, doesn't solve it either, as an example if 5-10 people are living in the same house and one is infected, then the next and so on, one after the other, it will takes months of lockdown to 'kill' the virus off and doing it across the world, just means it will never happen. Society will breakdown across the world and supply chains & infrastructure will break long before that(I am not just talking about food btw, there is a far bigger picture with supply chains/infrastructure across many things). All a bit scary to think about, bit movie kind of thinking

Medicine in treating the virus if infected(most likely to improve very fast) and a vaccine are our best hopes, as it doesn't even look like heat slows it down in hotter countries like heat does with some other respiratory viruses like flu but thankfully CO19 looks like it isn't really mutating from the uploaded genes/structure(?) breakdowns from around the world, from these early months. Not that it is being currently forced to mutate, as it is surviving just fine and has interacted with a lot of different humans.

A little bit of knowledge can be a dangerous thing, that being said:cautious:

All the best and be interested in hearing about any charts etc, you come up with.
 
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