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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Get the feeling that talk of a peak in a week or two is being interpreted by some, possibly many, as meaning the worst will be over and so they can start to get back to normal, so dangerous thinking because nope...sadly very not so I fear.
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Like this post. Just what I'm thinking. If we don't know how it started, how it is spread, how it effects different people, can it re-infect people who have already had it....and on and on and on. Four / Five months on from first found. China has no vaccine nor has anyone else. We have no idea what to do. We are only on lock down to prevent the NHS being over run. What happens when they let everyone out? the virus takes hold again? We don't know. No one bluddy knows!!!! There is no point spouting about how many deaths or anything else about it. We need to know where we are in solving the bluddy problem. Everything else is just pointless noise. People are ignoring instructions and I can see why. Tell us how we are going to defeat this. That's what we want to hear!!!! None of the moronic journos who get the chance to put questions to the government have even bothered to ask where we are in solving this. And why the hell are we being cooped up...apart from saving the NHS a load of mither. It's all a sack of poo and if the weather is good next Friday, there will be a huge rebellion, coz that's what we Brits do best, remember Brexit???? We need to be told if this can be stopped. If not, we'll take our chances.
 
Oh, and on topic. I actually spoken to my next door neighbour for the first time in christ knows when. And I've asked her to consider chopping down the monstrosity conifer blocking daylight from out back garden. She is to discuss this with her DH husband to is to scared to come out of the house and has been in TOTAL isolation for three weeks now. Also I've spoken to our new next door but one neighbour who was chopping down a monster tree. He's got four !!!! And intends to remove all four. Wahoooooooooo!!!!!!!
SUNSHINE !!!!!!!!!!!! in the early morning !!!!!!!!!!
 
pendodave said:
I'm no mathematician, but I think that the use of a logarithmic scale is quite normal in these situations.
Having said that, I'm not sure how many of their readers will appreciate that..,
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I do not challenge the data. I challenge the stupidity of their 'Trend'. Their simplistic black line suggests a linear relationship, it fails to weight later data and the log scale distorts the trend. It is a picture not a reliable qualitative depiction of trend.
 
Crazyface said:
Like this post. Just what I'm thinking. If we don't know how it started, how it is spread, how it effects different people, can it re-infect people who have already had it....and on and on and on. Four / Five months on from first found. China has no vaccine nor has anyone else. We have no idea what to do. We are only on lock down to prevent the NHS being over run. What happens when they let everyone out? the virus takes hold again? We don't know. No one bluddy knows!!!! There is no point spouting about how many deaths or anything else about it. We need to know where we are in solving the bluddy problem. Everything else is just pointless noise. People are ignoring instructions and I can see why. Tell us how we are going to defeat this. That's what we want to hear!!!! None of the moronic journos who get the chance to put questions to the government have even bothered to ask where we are in solving this. And why the hell are we being cooped up...apart from saving the NHS a load of mither. It's all a sack of poo and if the weather is good next Friday, there will be a huge rebellion, coz that's what we Brits do best, remember Brexit???? We need to be told if this can be stopped. If not, we'll take our chances.
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They solve the problem by creating a vaccine. Up to that point they manage the situation as well as they can to prevent a lot of people dying.

And the 'mither' we are helping the NHS with is their ability to effectively keep functioning.

As for a huge rebellion and taking your chances then the NHS and anyone who knows someone who may need them in the next few months thanks you for that selfless action.
 
Crazyface said:
Oh, and on topic. I actually spoken to my next door neighbour for the first time in christ knows when. And I've asked her to consider chopping down the monstrosity conifer blocking daylight from out back garden. She is to discuss this with her DH husband to is to scared to come out of the house and has been in TOTAL isolation for three weeks now. Also I've spoken to our new next door but one neighbour who was chopping down a monster tree. He's got four !!!! And intends to remove all four. Wahoooooooooo!!!!!!!
SUNSHINE !!!!!!!!!!!! in the early morning !!!!!!!!!!
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May be her husband is in a very vulnerable group and is self isolating to ensure he does not get the virus as there is a much greater chance if he got it he would die.

Or may be he's doing all he can to avoid hearing your views on the subject...
 
Crazyface said:
Oh, and on topic. I actually spoken to my next door neighbour for the first time in christ knows when. And I've asked her to consider chopping down the monstrosity conifer blocking daylight from out back garden. She is to discuss this with her DH husband to is to scared to come out of the house and has been in TOTAL isolation for three weeks now. Also I've spoken to our new next door but one neighbour who was chopping down a monster tree. He's got four !!!! And intends to remove all four. Wahoooooooooo!!!!!!!
SUNSHINE !!!!!!!!!!!! in the early morning !!!!!!!!!!
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My late father in law saw his first daughter at 6 weeks old and then didn't see her again until she was 2 years old.

Anne Frank and 7 others hid in an annexe for over 2 years to avoid the Nazis.

Nelson Mandela spent 27 years confined.

Given the current circumstances, is a few weeks isolation so much of a hardship?
 
Crazyface said:
Like this post. Just what I'm thinking. If we don't know how it started, how it is spread, how it effects different people, can it re-infect people who have already had it....and on and on and on. Four / Five months on from first found. China has no vaccine nor has anyone else. We have no idea what to do. We are only on lock down to prevent the NHS being over run. What happens when they let everyone out? the virus takes hold again? We don't know. No one bluddy knows!!!! There is no point spouting about how many deaths or anything else about it. We need to know where we are in solving the bluddy problem. Everything else is just pointless noise. People are ignoring instructions and I can see why. Tell us how we are going to defeat this. That's what we want to hear!!!! None of the moronic journos who get the chance to put questions to the government have even bothered to ask where we are in solving this. And why the hell are we being cooped up...apart from saving the NHS a load of mither. It's all a sack of poo and if the weather is good next Friday, there will be a huge rebellion, coz that's what we Brits do best, remember Brexit???? We need to be told if this can be stopped. If not, we'll take our chances.
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Oh the irony. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
Hacker Khan said:
May be her husband is in a very vulnerable group and is self isolating to ensure he does not get the virus as there is a much greater chance if he got it he would die.

Or may be he's doing all he can to avoid hearing your views on the subject...
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And who could blame him? :rolleyes:
 
I get what Crazyface is saying, the govt is drip feeding us bad news, they said 3 weeks to flatten the curve and give us manageable targets to cope with. They may need to keep isolating us for a year or two years but would never say that, no-one knows how long this will run.
Many people will not be able to handle it long term. No money, claustrophobia, boredom etc.
Civil Unrest is not a term anyone wants to hear but the 'sod this for a game of soldiers we're going out' attitude will increase over time. Money or lack of will drive desperate people too.
We all know current measures are simply so NHS isn't overwhelmed, nothing to do with actually ridding us of the virus, just buying time.

Maybe Sweden have it right?

Hancock's idea of getting those who have had it antibody tested and certificated back to work makes sense. Herd immunity is an ugly term but that's what is happening.

Isn't it true without a vaccine the only way to defeat it is for every single person in the world to fully isolate at the same time for 3 weeks so it runs it's course with those carrying/suffering then dies off without new hosts?
Cannot be done of course because as a humane species we treat our ill and we have to interact to do all manner of things like feed ourselves and keep societies and economies functioning.

Presently we are only just managing it to a degree.

Happy Days!?
 
Think we need to watch S Korea & China to see how they progress and learn what we can.
Sweden has been toughening their stance and their medical profession demanding more.
 
Fish said:
Scotland’s CMO tells everyone to stay at home, but then goes off to the coast to her 2nd home with the whole family & dogs in tow ?

Let’s wait for the Sturgeon spin on this ?

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/ne...&utm_source=Twitter&__twitter_impression=true
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Potentially massive news (up here at least). Is there a possibility it's fake?
I'm no fan of the Scottish Government but think they've been handling this well.

If this is true she should be gone, fined and removed from the medical register. Just stupid.
 
Some rumblings that the lockdown could be eased off a bit in the next few weeks, but dependent somewhat on folk not trying to make the most of what is going to be a decent day weather wise and heading to parks, beaches etc.

I'm not saying easing things off is a good thing at all, but it is being floated as an idea.

However going by the pictures from Brighton beach and the London parks yesterday, it's not going to go well today.
 
Crazyface said:
Like this post. Just what I'm thinking. If we don't know how it started, how it is spread, how it effects different people, can it re-infect people who have already had it....and on and on and on. Four / Five months on from first found. China has no vaccine nor has anyone else. We have no idea what to do. We are only on lock down to prevent the NHS being over run. What happens when they let everyone out? the virus takes hold again? We don't know. No one bluddy knows!!!! There is no point spouting about how many deaths or anything else about it. We need to know where we are in solving the bluddy problem. Everything else is just pointless noise. People are ignoring instructions and I can see why. Tell us how we are going to defeat this. That's what we want to hear!!!! None of the moronic journos who get the chance to put questions to the government have even bothered to ask where we are in solving this. And why the hell are we being cooped up...apart from saving the NHS a load of mither. It's all a sack of poo and if the weather is good next Friday, there will be a huge rebellion, coz that's what we Brits do best, remember Brexit???? We need to be told if this can be stopped. If not, we'll take our chances.
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Of the phrases in bold, you seem to suggest that" saving the NHS some mother" is not really a good enough reason to coop us up.
Have you no imagination? Have you any idea what those NHS workers are going through, the risks they are taking for our sakes, that they will take for your sake if you are unfortunate enough to be in hospital with this?
Yes, this is new and incurable till a vaccine ( or appropriate existing medicine) is found.
I know that, most on here know that, so now to the things that are being done.
Ventilators are now getting produced, including deliveries of some from China!, Medicine are being trialled, clinical trials for vaccines are being urgently worked on.
But, you, in your frustration want to justify resuming normal because you fail to understand that no one can give you a definitive detailed answer in a definite timeline. That's because there isn't one, not because they are refusing to tell you.
Are you really going to resume normal, and encourage others to do the same , thereby overwhelming the NHS staff ( who are mithering, are they?),bolstered by the knowledge that rebelling is what we Brits do, it's an attribute, you know.

Sorry, you're wrong!
 
rudebhoy said:
Some rumblings that the lockdown could be eased off a bit in the next few weeks, but dependent somewhat on folk not trying to make the most of what is going to be a decent day weather wise and heading to parks, beaches etc.

I'm not saying easing things off is a good thing at all, but it is being floated as an idea.

However going by the pictures from Brighton beach and the London parks yesterday, it's not going to go well today.
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i may be being overly cynical (maybe the lockdown is getting to me ?), but if I wanted to make sure that people focused their frustrations on other people, and not Government. Then the first thing I’d do is float the idea that the restrictions were about to be lifted just before a nice sunny extended weekend. Then I’d crackdown heavily once the pictures of people going to the country/beaches emerged in the media....... ???
 
I left the house yesterday for the first time since Monday. It was very busy and the cyclists can cover miles in a short space of time, most of them are in groups of 2 or more. I would be happy for them to ban running and cycling But aI know it would be unpopular, the NHS staff who are struggling to get clean scrubs and masks etc would probably disagree especially with the amount of NHS workers getting ill With the disease.
Its too easy to blame the government but when you have filthy rich doing nothing and absolute morons ignoring the stay at home message the country will be on its knees for a long time.
 
Crazyface said:
Like this post. Just what I'm thinking. If we don't know how it started, how it is spread, how it effects different people, can it re-infect people who have already had it....and on and on and on. Four / Five months on from first found. China has no vaccine nor has anyone else. We have no idea what to do. We are only on lock down to prevent the NHS being over run. What happens when they let everyone out? the virus takes hold again? We don't know. No one bluddy knows!!!! There is no point spouting about how many deaths or anything else about it. We need to know where we are in solving the bluddy problem. Everything else is just pointless noise. People are ignoring instructions and I can see why. Tell us how we are going to defeat this. That's what we want to hear!!!! None of the moronic journos who get the chance to put questions to the government have even bothered to ask where we are in solving this. And why the hell are we being cooped up...apart from saving the NHS a load of mither. It's all a sack of poo and if the weather is good next Friday, there will be a huge rebellion, coz that's what we Brits do best, remember Brexit???? We need to be told if this can be stopped. If not, we'll take our chances.
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It would appear to be a little more than mither for these deceased NHS workers;

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/04/03/nhs-staff-died-coronavirus-frontline-workers-victims/

I wonder what their grieving relatives would make of your childish strop?
 
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