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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Papas1982 said:
Your sarcasm aside (why state a problem if you don't wanna hear answers).

Even if you go back to work, would you expect to bonuses (I presume performance related) in this current market?
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It wasn’t a problem I asked you to solve. Depends on the economy when we get back. The optimistic believe a strong bounce back......not so sure. There will also be a significant supply issue even with a strong recovery. 16 week lag min imo
 
Papas1982 said:
Your sarcasm aside (why state a problem if you don't wanna hear answers).

Even if you go back to work, would you expect to bonuses (I presume performance related) in this current market?
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I bet the CEO would get a bonus for keeping the business running in this tough time .
So why not the workers?
 
Ross61 said:
Fortunately I’m not affected by this as a I’m a key worker, therefore I have not looked into the furlough rules. Is the 80% when you get back to work “normally” to pay back the government or to help your company?
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The furlough scheme is a payment made to companies to cover 80% of someone's wages, up to a top limit of £2,500 per month I believe. To receive this the person must be sent home, not working at all and be off for a minimum of 3 weeks. People are currently being sent home on this but the money is not actually available to companies yet. The aim is that firms do not make mass redundancies during this time, adding to worries and encouraging people to go to work when it also not safe for them to do so. It also helps to maintain the hope of a quick economic recovery once restrictions are relaxed.

The companies can not just sack people and squirrel the money away. There will checks in place, somehow through HMRC, to ensure it works correctly.
 
Jacko_G said:
I'd love to stay at home on 80% instead of playing Covid 19 roulette every day.

At least I'm getting paid full whack so always a plus to every negative I guess.
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Yes but your working ( you should be on danger money).
There must be people happy to stay at home for 80%
It’s driving me crackers .
If your on a decent wage minus expenses 80% is great.
But someone on 80% of basic pay who relies on performance related bonus may struggle.
There is no fix that pleases everyone.
 
It's starting to affect me quite badly now. Had to furlough the gardener and cut the south lawn myself ? Next to go will be my driver and her tennis coach, her sex life will take a hit ?

I'll keep my butler on as long as possible though ?
 
DaveR said:
It's starting to affect me quite badly now. Had to furlough the gardener and cut the south lawn myself ? Next to go will be my driver and her tennis coach, her sex life will take a hit ?

I'll keep my butler on as long as possible though ?
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who will lower your drawbridge and feed the animals in your moat?
 
clubchamp98 said:
I bet the CEO would get a bonus for keeping the business running in this tough time .
So why not the workers?
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If you have specific targets then the chances are, you arent going to hit them.

It wasn't a question of being deserving of them or not.

Also atm I'd imagine a higher % of ceos are working compared to staff. So they are more likely to be involved in keeping a company afloat.

Also, not all ceos are millionaire playboys making loads. What about those of smaller companies. Imo it just seems to be easy to label all ceos bad and all lower staff heroes..

At my place, all directors are still working. Having regularly meetings with government officials etc, whilst a lot of my colleagues were queueing up for furlough and have spent the last few days posting pics all over social media about getting paid to do nothing.
 
Spanish flu, 1918 to 1920, had an infection rate and mortality rates a smidge either side of COVID. Globally, catching the numbers back then was near enough impossible. Spanish flu killed 10's of millions(known), and it is suggested it may have been somewhere between 80,000,000 and 100,000,000 when you factor in the then named 3rd world countries.

There is no vaccine for COVID yet. What do you think the numbers will be?

How people manage their lives within the restrictions and regulations is up to them. However, where you can try and do at least that and prefereably a lot more.

I've worked in around intensive cares for 30 years. I've seen MERS, SARS and a number of nasty things, and slept soundly on a night without barely a ripple. This absolutely scares the shine out of me.
 
Out on my walk yesterday had the local rec to myself for quite a while

Could not decide on football cricket or rugby

I would post the pictures but they are too big for this site.

I am tempted to take a club and a couple of balls next time I go, the far end is well away from everything.
 
Papas1982 said:
If you have specific targets then the chances are, you arent going to hit them.

It wasn't a question of being deserving of them or not.

Also atm I'd imagine a higher % of ceos are working compared to staff. So they are more likely to be involved in keeping a company afloat.

Also, not all ceos are millionaire playboys making loads. What about those of smaller companies. Imo it just seems to be easy to label all ceos bad and all lower staff heroes..

At my place, all directors are still working. Having regularly meetings with government officials etc, whilst a lot of my colleagues were queueing up for furlough and have spent the last few days posting pics all over social media about getting paid to do nothing.
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Where did I say all CEOs are bad?
I merely pointed out if they get credit for keeping the company afloat so should the workers.
 
I had said to my wife about taking up a job as a shelf stacker at the local supermarket. I am more worried about post C19. Economic recovery and availability of jobs.. I am currently living on a redundancy payout but had an ISA as a back up but that has been significantly de-valued.
So I was thinking of stringing our what I have for longer.
The wife said no, the risk is too great. We have literally isolated ourselves. No external walks, or comms.. just running about the garden.
 
bobmac said:
I totally agree with everything you say but it doesn't solve the problem of people getting to and from work.
People can't keep their distance in Tescos, never mind a busy train/bus/tram/tube
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Even our local Co Op went to one out one in yesterday with a limit on how many in the store at one time. However the aisles are so narrow it is impossible to keep 2m away from other customers except for when queuing for the till.
 
Swinglowandslow said:
So, is it necessary to put yourself up a ladder that you might fall off, and have contact with medics and others and risk getting yourself or your family infected, or vice versa. Was it that important to do it at this time.?
Of course, just living and moving around involves some risk, but it behoves us to not increase that risk unnecessarily at a time like this.
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For clarity... My fall was long before the current 'situation'...

The only way to avoid any accident is to wrap ourselves in cotton wool... Yea, some will be taking risk [unacceptable risk in some cases] but from what I am seeing/hearing the vast majority are acting responsibly... There's never a good time to have an accident after all...
 
Just wondering what people's thoughts on deliveries from online companies were.

Are you still ordering any old tosh and getting it delivered, or are you keeping it to essentials only? I'm trying to keep it to essentials only but have a real hankering to start spending money.
 
clubchamp98 said:
Where did I say all CEOs are bad?
I merely pointed out if they get credit for keeping the company afloat so should the workers.
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Different members/levels of staff will have different targets. So I think to blanket say that if a director gets it then so should the staff simply doesn't work.

Many a company has sacked a director for a company not making the profits they want. Do they sack every member of staff as well?
 
Jacko_G said:
I'd love to stay at home on 80% instead of playing Covid 19 roulette every day.
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80% up to £2,500 a month which equates to £30,000 a year before tax.
Imagine you earn £50,000 a year, you're all of a sudden taking a 20k paycut, a lot of families cannot afford to take that hit.
Ok, you're at home on your @rse doing nothing so effectively getting paid for sod all, but I know the majority of higher earners would much prefer to be at work.
I thought I would never say the words, but I have a lot of sympathy for some of the higher earners who may now struggle to pay their mortgage.
 
HowlingGale said:
Just wondering what people's thoughts on deliveries from online companies were.

Are you still ordering any old tosh and getting it delivered, or are you keeping it to essentials only? I'm trying to keep it to essentials only but have a real hankering to start spending money.
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I'll be honest. I was trying to stop ordering. Along the lines of it being none essential, but having seen so many drivers out and about for deliveries I relented. I think until government rule that those companies have to close, there is no point stopping.
 
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