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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Speaking from personal experience a lot of the DIY tasks folk are taking on, whilst in 'isolation', is fraught with danger... Going to be mighty difficult to control folk doing what they see and consider everyday tasks... I must of climbed ladders hundreds [thousands] of times previously... Just took one lapse of 'care' and I was down them taking up the services of a paramedic and a couple of ambulance men and that's not mentioning the many folk that cared for me on arrival at the hospital... Staying in can be just as dangerous as going out...
So, is it necessary to put yourself up a ladder that you might fall off, and have contact with medics and others and risk getting yourself or your family infected, or vice versa. Was it that important to do it at this time.?
Of course, just living and moving around involves some risk, but it behoves us to not increase that risk unnecessarily at a time like this.
 
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so you really think that the guy in chesire that is keeping one staff member to one room is going to up these figures? if it was so cut and dry as you say then why haven't the government enforced this? even the government are saying you can go to work if you can't work from home. so if it's good enough for them then why don't you accept it? do you know better?

I don't have all the answers but I do know as long as people gather together at work or on public transport getting to and from work, people are going to keep dying.
 
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I don't have all the answers but I do know as long as people gather together at work or on public transport getting to and from work, people are going to keep dying.

You have to consider short and long term. As bluewolf said.
More people will die of the effects of mass unemployment. It’s all well and good taking 80% from the government, but when it ends and it will. If all the companies have gone bust, there is no redundancy package and millions will have no income.
 
You have to consider short and long term. As bluewolf said.
More people will die of the effects of mass unemployment. It’s all well and good taking 80% from the government, but when it ends and it will. If all the companies have gone bust, there is no redundancy package and millions will have no income.
Who then pays for the doctors, nurses, equipment, fire fighters, teachers etc if taxes are not coming in. We have to maintain an economy of sorts.

Companies across Europe are still operating, their govts understand the economic need. Throughout all of this we are still shipping across Europe, even to the hardest hit countries such as Spain and Italy.
 
Maybe some companies can alter start and finish times so some start at 10 and finish at 7.
At least that would reduce crowding at peak times
We’ve sent everyone home that we can. We’ve moved people about to limit interaction. We’ve taped off exclusion zones so that people can stay safe. We’ve done as much as possible in my view. I’ve also been impressed with the way the staff have acted in the main. In my view, these staff who keep the businesses running during this pandemic are just as important as anyone else. We all need something to return to when the doors finally open. At the very least, we should all have learned that we should not be looking down on any job, position or role. Without the lower paid there wouldn’t be any higher paid jobs.
 
Whatever some think, I can’t survive on 80% basic + no chance of earning bonus. My furlough is supposed to be an average of my monthly earnings capped at £2.5k & also 80% when I get back for the foreseeable. That maybe ok in the short term, but my Mrs is self employed & her income has dropped off a cliff. How many of those proposing stay at home are retired & mortgage free ?
 
Maybe some companies can alter start and finish times so some start at 10 and finish at 7.
At least that would reduce crowding at peak times

If Kharnage hadn’t reduced many services people wouldn’t be as crowded as they find alternative routes, station changes are then crowded, the mans an idiot and has defied the government’s directive not to reduce services!
 
We’ve sent everyone home that we can. We’ve moved people about to limit interaction. We’ve taped off exclusion zones so that people can stay safe. We’ve done as much as possible in my view. I’ve also been impressed with the way the staff have acted in the main. In my view, these staff who keep the businesses running during this pandemic are just as important as anyone else. We all need something to return to when the doors finally open. At the very least, we should all have learned that we should not be looking down on any job, position or role. Without the lower paid there wouldn’t be any higher paid jobs.

I totally agree with everything you say but it doesn't solve the problem of people getting to and from work.
People can't keep their distance in Tescos, never mind a busy train/bus/tram/tube
 
Whatever some think, I can’t survive on 80% basic + no chance of earning bonus. My furlough is supposed to be an average of my monthly earnings capped at £2.5k & also 80% when I get back for the foreseeable. That maybe ok in the short term, but my Mrs is self employed & her income has dropped off a cliff. How many of those proposing stay at home are retired & mortgage free ?

You can also take mortgage and repayment holidays. Yes, that will increase your term. But everyone is gonna suffer in one way or another. I'd rather be furloughed. I can probably account for 10% loss simply with no travel to work and the rubbish I eat there. Add to that mo takeaways, not golf expenses and its doable. Obviosly some will struggle. But there are ways around it for most.

That's the best you can hope for in a situation like this. It isn't possible to please everyone.
 
Whatever some think, I can’t survive on 80% basic + no chance of earning bonus. My furlough is supposed to be an average of my monthly earnings capped at £2.5k & also 80% when I get back for the foreseeable. That maybe ok in the short term, but my Mrs is self employed & her income has dropped off a cliff. How many of those proposing stay at home are retired & mortgage free ?

Fortunately I’m not affected by this as a I’m a key worker, therefore I have not looked into the furlough rules. Is the 80% when you get back to work “normally” to pay back the government or to help your company?
 
You can also take mortgage and repayment holidays. Yes, that will increase your term. But everyone is gonna suffer in one way or another. I'd rather be furloughed. I can probably account for 10% loss simply with no travel to work and the rubbish I eat there. Add to that mo takeaways, not golf expenses and its doable. Obviosly some will struggle. But there are ways around it for most.

That's the best you can hope for in a situation like this. It isn't possible to please everyone.
Cheers for the insight into my finances ?? if only I’d thought of the mortgage holiday ?
I’m very bonus heavy. The way around it is to go back to work
 
I totally agree with everything you say but it doesn't solve the problem of people getting to and from work.
People can't keep their distance in Tescos, never mind a busy train/bus/tram/tube
But there is no real solution. It may be worth thinking that these people are risking themselves to ensure that we all have a society to return to in 3/6/9/12 months. I know they’re not exactly doing it willingly, but we’d be in a far worse position without them.
 
I'll answer the dog walking one for those who don't get it. We walk our dog, step outside the door etc most days, at the moment all of the time of course. That means you are repeating the same walk time and time again. There are different routes to take but ultimately there are limits. That gets dull for the walker and the dog. At a weekend, when we have free time, we will often get in the car and drive 4-5 miles and that takes us to a beach, a country park, a wood to walk in etc. Somewhere different, somewhere to safely let our dog off her lead for a run.

We are not doing any of this right now but in normal times it is standard for a lot of people. It's the same for walkers, would you expect them to ramble around their home streets only?
I agree with you I’m normal times I can see that!
But not now.
I like a walk on the beach ,who dosnt.
 
on the dog walkers. my friend drives 5 miles to a spot even though he has a cannal running along side his house. he is elderly and makes the drive because the tow path is busy with walkers and he's scared to walk the area. going to the wood gets him away from other people. I can see both sides to the argument
 
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The question was on the back of someone agreeing that it was okay to take their daughter out to their grandparents, but at the same time couldn’t understand why people took the dogs for a drive to the park.

Neither of which irritates me, but amazed that someone though there was a difference.
I think it was about his wife’s mental health!
Hi daughter went with them as she couldn’t be left at home!!
 
Cheers for the insight into my finances ?? if only I’d thought of the mortgage holiday ?
I’m very bonus heavy. The way around it is to go back to work

Your sarcasm aside (why state a problem if you don't wanna hear answers).

Even if you go back to work, would you expect to bonuses (I presume performance related) in this current market?
 
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