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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

clubchamp98 said:
You did the right thing imo.
Mental health is vital atm.
It’s hard for the kids to understand what’s going on.
You need to stop her watching Piers Morgan!
It’s people who drive their dogs miles to go for a walk I don’t get!
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Nothing new here though. I used to manage parks (including the car parks within them). Every time we had to put up parking charges, we'd get the dog walkers complaining. "We can't afford to bring our dogs to the park now". My reply of "Well, if you walked your dog to the park instead of driving, you wouldn't need to pay, would you" was always met with stoney silence.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Good unscripted briefing by Matt Hancock earlier I thought. Whether or not much was of any comfort I'm not so sure - but at least I got the impression that he knew what he was talking about and had authority to speak and answer questions - which he did.
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I think the government have done well with all this up to now.
The one thing I would say though is why come up with targets to test people (100,000) by end of the month.
Normally a politician promises something they have five years to do it or not!
Now he has weeks.
But they promise things that are out of their control ( test kits don’t exist yet for antibodies,that work)
Matt Hancock is the worst offender, just tell us the truth!
 
Had a Zoom meet-up with my mates earlier. All had a beer in our hands, and someone managed to find an online version of Cards Against Humanity we could all play, so had a bit of a laugh with that. Need a new game for next time I think.
 
murphthemog said:
Sunday will be interesting. 20 degrees, great weather. How many will stay at home? Just can't see it.
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Even though I feel more than confident to keep to the correct distancing, whilst in the woods, I've already decided to make it 'stay in Sunday'... Hopefully, the measures taken over at the Lido have been spread wide and far and folk don't start arriving, in large numbers, hoping for a stroll on the beach... Car parks were open yesterday and we counted about a total of 15 vehicles between the two as we walked past... Way less than 'normal'...
 
It's the Management's birthday today and she's just coming off a night shift ( back on again tonight) so it's not a normal one for her.
As I've been confined for a couple of weeks I've used Amazon to accumulate pressies - the card has arrived but none of the pressies ( maybe today)
So I had to get something for her to open with her cards when she gets home.
So, first time shopping outside for 2 weeks and I'm not ashamed to say I felt more than a mite nervous about even going out, let alone being in the shop.
It's only the local Sainsbury's small shop and I was barely able to get anything for her but I was surprisingly relieved to get home.
I think, at the end of all this, the psychological effects may match or even surpass the loss of life
There will be more distrust of people, many will need counselling and some won't get that far and will end it all.
Keep talking people.....and be nice.
A lot of people are having a hard time.
 
I'll answer the dog walking one for those who don't get it. We walk our dog, step outside the door etc most days, at the moment all of the time of course. That means you are repeating the same walk time and time again. There are different routes to take but ultimately there are limits. That gets dull for the walker and the dog. At a weekend, when we have free time, we will often get in the car and drive 4-5 miles and that takes us to a beach, a country park, a wood to walk in etc. Somewhere different, somewhere to safely let our dog off her lead for a run.

We are not doing any of this right now but in normal times it is standard for a lot of people. It's the same for walkers, would you expect them to ramble around their home streets only?
 
garyinderry said:


Watched this last night. Harrowing.
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Just watched it, and I think all TV programmes should be halted at a prime time and it shown on every channel, like a national awareness and education, its a wake-up call to anyone who thinks we're not vulnerable, at any age in any part of the country.

When the most sophisticated hospital with the most resources available to them is overwhelmed, then the writing is on the wall, its here, its spreading, ignorance will be punished, not just to yourself, but to many many others, so don't be selfish, stay at home!

I'm still on the road, can't believe what I see when arriving at some companies where their staff clearly are working too close or in small cramped areas, or without any PPE!

I have an official letter confirming that I'm a key worker, I'm doing some delivery runs that I can't discus in detail but I can say that I am delivering to laboratories under very strict and controlled conditions at silly hours.

People on here talking about golf being relaxed shortly and that it can be self-managed, safely, are kidding themselves, we have stronger lock down procedures still to be enforced in the coming weeks/months!

Still far too many cars on the road, and as for those speeding due to quieter roads/motorways, they want locking up if caught, not points or fines, ban them immediately!
 
Good to hear prof Neil Ferguson on the radio just now refer to infections (and deaths) reaching a plateau and how long before we start dropping from that plateau. More accurate I feel that talking of infections reaching a peak as a peak implies that we’d be dropping from that place pretty quickly - that’s what peaks are.

The ‘flattening’ that separation intends to provide is a flattening of a peak into a much lower plateau. Kind of important distinction I feel in setting public expectations - and indeed his view was that though we might reach the plateau in a couple of weeks, end May before we start dropping off the plateau.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Good to hear prof Neil Ferguson on the radio just now refer to infections (and deaths) reaching a plateau and how long before we start dropping from that plateau. More accurate I feel that talking of infections reaching a peak as a peak implies that we’d be dropping from that place pretty quickly - that’s what peaks are.

The ‘flattening’ that separation intends to provide is a flattening of a peak into a much lower plateau. Kind of important distinction I feel in setting public expectations - and indeed his view was that though we might reach the plateau in a couple of weeks, end May before we start dropping off the plateau.
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what some people need to understand tho (not saying you) ls thatThe flattening is not the beginning of the end of this The flattening of the curve is to allow hospitals get some patients out to make room for others .. currently no cure or vaccine . So the lock down is to stop the spread to ease pressure on rescources not to "cure" it .. although there are opinions it wil just die off if not spread.. i have no idea on that tbh
 
HomerJSimpson said:
Funny how we see work as a necessary evil, and many are probably not overly happy their jobs, but given the chance to go out still (as a key worker obviously) and interact makes such a difference
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NO.
Any worker who can't work from home and can still social distance may still go to work.
Why can't/won't people understand this?
 
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SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Maybe his exposure to the virus has changed his thinking...enabled him to speak straight - or maybe it was more to do with him comparing very favourably against those who have done briefings this week before his return - Raab, Gove and Sharma - did Jenrick do one also. Perhaps also a week ago I was finding Hunt and Sinai more convincing than Hancock.

Hancock did fine today.
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I think you ought to clarify that phrase. Are you suggesting he's been lying previously? Or what.
 
Swinglowandslow said:
Probably the fact that it's ultimately selfish act. An unnecessary drive.An unnecessary risk of an accident which involves undoing social distancing and a diversion of resources.
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This is what people aren't factoring in when justifying their need to go out further than the immediate area of where they live.

Like those saying lift the golf restrictions, can you walk to the golf course, I'd say mainly no, so its not an essential journey, can you walk the dog without driving, yes, but if they broke down or had an accident in those circumstances, a recovery vehicle may be needed, an ambulance may be needed, these are all then breaching what we are attempting to control with social distancing, people are just selfish and just aren't accepting the threat, not just to themselves, but to others!

The true colours of some people always come through when challenged in circumstances like these, selfishness is rife unfortunately.
 
bobmac said:
If they don't go to work, can they not claim back 80% of their pay from the government ?
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Yes, but that's not the point I'm trying to make.
I'm just wishing that people would understand the guidelines and not spout misleading inaccuracies.
I know of a case where the average profits over a three year period is just about break even.
80% of that won't help them.
 
Slime said:
That's not the point I'm trying to make.
I'm just wishing that people would understand the guidelines and not spout misleading inaccuracies.
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I'm sorry I don't care what people spout.
If you can stay at home and get 80% of your wage then in my opinion you should stay at home.
 
Fish said:
This is what people aren't factoring in when justifying their need to go out further than the immediate area of where they live.

Like those saying lift the golf restrictions, can you walk to the golf course, I'd say mainly no, so its not an essential journey, can you walk the dog without driving, yes, but if they broke down or had an accident in those circumstances, a recovery vehicle may be needed, an ambulance may be needed, these are all then breaching what we are attempting to control with social distancing, people are just selfish and just aren't accepting the threat, not just to themselves, but to others!

The true colours of some people always come through when challenged in circumstances like these, selfishness is rife unfortunately.
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Speaking from personal experience a lot of the DIY tasks folk are taking on, whilst in 'isolation', is fraught with danger... Going to be mighty difficult to control folk doing what they see and consider everyday tasks... I must of climbed ladders hundreds [thousands] of times previously... Just took one lapse of 'care' and I was down them taking up the services of a paramedic and a couple of ambulance men and that's not mentioning the many folk that cared for me on arrival at the hospital... Staying in can be just as dangerous as going out...
 
bladeplayer said:
what some people need to understand tho (not saying you) ls thatThe flattening is not the beginning of the end of this The flattening of the curve is to allow hospitals get some patients out to make room for others .. currently no cure or vaccine . So the lock down is to stop the spread to ease pressure on rescources not to "cure" it .. although there are opinions it wil just die off if not spread.. i have no idea on that tbh
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Spot on!

I think what some people might miss is the number underneath a flat prolonged curve could still be very close to a curve that rises higher and fall sharply. As you say, all it does is reduce pressure and buy time. There is still no cure, only the potential for easier access to acute care if the flattening is achieved.
 
MegaSteve said:
Speaking from personal experience a lot of the DIY tasks folk are taking on, whilst in 'isolation', is fraught with danger... Going to be mighty difficult to control folk doing what they see and consider everyday tasks... I must of climbed ladders hundreds [thousands] of times previously... Just took one lapse of 'care' and I was down them taking up the services of a paramedic and a couple of ambulance men and that's not mentioning the many folk that cared for me on arrival at the hospital... Staying in can be just as dangerous as going out...
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But wilfully driving when not essential is increasing the risk of that of a household accident! hence the word 'accident', if they've chosen to drive when not necessary, then that imo has been brought on by selfishness and stupidity!
 
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Swinglowandslow said:
Probably the fact that it's ultimately selfish act. An unnecessary drive.An unnecessary risk of an accident which involves undoing social distancing and a diversion of resources.
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The question was on the back of someone agreeing that it was okay to take their daughter out to their grandparents, but at the same time couldn’t understand why people took the dogs for a drive to the park.

Neither of which irritates me, but amazed that someone though there was a difference.
 
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