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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

bobmac said:
If they don't go to work, can they not claim back 80% of their pay from the government ?
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NO....
You’re company has to put you on furlough to enable the 80% payment. If the company is still operating then you go in. This isn’t difficult. Please can we move on from this myth that people can just decide to stay at home and still be paid. Don’t you think we’d do that rather than put ourselves and our families at risk!!!!!
 
bobmac said:
So why don't companies shut down and let the govt. pay their staff wages?
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your clearly not a business owner. imagine having a successful business that can still operate whilst adhering to the governments guidelines and close just because some people think they should. are these people going to come out the woodwork and help you rebuild your company. I have visited multiple company's recently and all of them have very good measures in place.
 
hovis said:
your clearly not a business owner. imagine having a successful business that can still operate whilst adhering to the governments guidelines and close just because some people think they should. are these people going to come out the woodwork and help you rebuild your company. I have visited multiple company's recently and all of them have very good measures in place.
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Im very happy with the measures put in place by my Company. It’s not perfect, but it lessens the risks as much as possible.
 
hovis said:
your clearly not a business owner. imagine having a successful business that can still operate whilst adhering to the governments guidelines and close just because some people think they should. are these people going to come out the woodwork and help you rebuild your company. I have visited multiple company's recently and all of them have very good measures in place.
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I'm sure they do.
But how do the staff get to work?
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Woke to some very sad news this morning. Teena who runs the half-way hut at Wellingborough passed away last night. She had been unwell for such a long time and so stoical through it all but finally she succumbed to the inevitable. Such a lovely person and I've always said I'd miss her more than anyone else at the club which is true. Loved the times I played solo and stopped after 9 holes for a good old gossip - few cups of tea later I'd carry on down the 10th.

What is really sad is we won't be able to attend the funeral - usually it would be packed as she was such a popular person at our club and also at county level as she was on the committee and always at events to do the cards before and after.

RIP Teena.
 
bobmac said:
I'm sure they do.
But how do the staff get to work?
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Bob, I appreciate that you’re arguing that safety should be the primary and only concern. But if every business shuts down and everyone stayed at home, the end result would be far far worse than the current pandemic. Millions would die over the next few decades probably.
I’m not 100% comfortable going to work. But I still go as I appreciate that it’s a necessity. I really would prefer it if I didn’t have to constantly deal with people telling me that I’m the reason that the lockdown will continue and more people will die. It’s not that I don’t know that it’s bullshite, but I am getting bored with telling people the same thing every bloody day....
 
bobmac said:
I'm sure they do.
But how do the staff get to work?
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London is not the whole country. Plenty can do it safely.

If I don't go in, I can operate safely with a reduced staff, then there is a good chance I wont have a business to operate going forward. It's going to be tough enough already to survive the next 12 months but if we close for 1-2 months then my customers, who are largely still operating, will go elsewhere for the items they buy from me. The chances of them then coming back to me after all this are very small.

What applies to me as a small business is the same for companies of all sizes. Size is mo protection right now.
 
bobmac said:
684 people died yesterday with almost 4,500 new cases reported.
I wouldn't call that an isolated problem
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so you really think that the guy in chesire that is keeping one staff member to one room is going to up these figures? if it was so cut and dry as you say then why haven't the government enforced this? even the government are saying you can go to work if you can't work from home. so if it's good enough for them then why don't you accept it? do you know better?
 
The problem I've observed is companies are legally obligated to protect their staff but there is no one checking to see if this is actually taking place.
In my factory, people try to follow the distancing guidelines but there is many instances where it is impossible to the job. 2 or 3 men may be all over each other operating a machine, fitters call out when it malfunctions, packers are too close together and some on the floor simply ignore the distancing practices over and over.
Reports on Facebook from other companies sound even worse.
Personally I dodged a bullet. A woman in our lab went off to isolate a week and half ago. Shes 65 and felt she was vulnerable. While trying to be as safe as possible she is now at home fighting the virus. I'm certain I would have caught it had she kept working as the lab isn't very big.

It's a difficult balance. Our MD has decided we are going to try and keep going through all of this. Even if we only go down to 10% production. I appreciate we need to also protect jobs. I fully believe we could have shut for a fortnight to ease the mind of staff and play our part to help the NHS.
 
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