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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Also....e mails have dropped off, So that's bonus!!!!

Well I think they have. I can't count more than 10, unless I take my socks off. COZ I'M THICK !!!
 
Police chief of Liverpool said on Granada reports that “Its ok to drive a short distance to go for exercise to a quiet spot”
That is really mixed messages.
After Paul’s relative was refused permission to drive to Liverpool, so what is nessesary and what’s not.?


Hey maybe the Chief of police in Liverpool is THICK too. Coz he seems to have misunderstood the is required. Or he's just THICK !!!! Eh?
 
Just discussing the testing in our house .. is it worth doing more ? Yes but would you repeat on the same person? Could the test tell that you have had it ?
In the end why is the test so complex and limited ?
By having more results would it undermine the lockdown? Would it be better to say of the confirmed cases we have had x percentage of mortality?

So in the end what would more tests offer ? They might get people out of self isolation but they won’t put people into isolation before they infect someone... I suppose, unless they track groups of possible infections.

It is clear there are two fronts on which the government could and should be doing better.
1. They must test all Frontline NHS staff.
2. They must PPE all frontline staff.
Whatever method achieves this, then do it. Boris must order Public health England to decentralise and use all sources.
Stop all private testing pro temp and commandere their resources for NHS testing.
I see little value in testing the general public at all.
If it doesn't impact on NHS testing, then as soon as practicable we should do the antibody test as well. NHS staff first again.
Prof Paul Cosford is saying 25000 by mid April. Others are saying that strip the blinkered attitude, decentralise and it could be sooner, and more .
Military thinking is needed here -to source testing equipment, and then get it and use it. Forget the usual paper work to do that- just get it.
Someone has mentioned the Dunkirk spirit, when the little boats made the vital contribution- so , use the same mentality and source this testing the same way.
Come on Boris - Kick Ass.!
 
Maybe I'm thick. Can you explain? It was something I read last night. Explain in simple terms for me, coz I'm THICK, why CV19 is worse than flu? Coz I really just don't get it.
I'm not doctor but I'm pretty sure it's like a thousand times more contagious for a start. I think the symptoms are worse. I googled it for you: https://www.independent.co.uk/life-...d-19-cold-flu-difference-latest-a9389511.html
Why is coronavirus more dangerous than the common cold and flu and do you treat them differently?

For years, scientists have been studying flu and the common cold, meaning that a number of treatments, such as the flu jab are available to help battle against getting ill.

Because Covid-19 is new, there is no vaccination against it. Medics say it could be as long as a year before a Covid-19 vaccination is produced. Experts also fear that Covid-19 may be spreading faster than flu.
For a lot of people it's no worse than the flu, but the whole point is that everybody is restricted so as not to spread the virus to people who are at risk of dying, because loads more people would catch it, and nobody has been vaccinated against, basically.

I think maybe you knew all this though, unless you've had your head in the sand for three weeks.
 
so the WHO are now saying masks do work and the virus can stay in the air for upto 3 days. that's what sky news have just reported!! ?
 
Just read that Flu can kill up to 10,000 people a year in the UK. We don't "lockdown" for that do we?
The rather significant difference between Flu and C19 is that there's protection available for Flu, whil;e there's none (yet) for C19! And that's aside from the often more serious effects C19 can have!

I don't, yet, get vaccinated against Flu, though if my health deterioates I'll (re)consider it. But if a vaccine against C19 becomes available, I'll certainly be in the queue for it!
 
In other news, my boss rang me this morning and told me that the lady I work with (two of us doing much the same job) has been furloughed, whereas I haven't. But he doesn't want me to pick up the extra slack thankfully, because he wants to prove to our directors that her role was justified, and he's worried that if I do the job both of us were doing they'll just lay her off permanently. But either way, I'm on my own now.
 
It is clear there are two fronts on which the government could and should be doing better.
1. They must test all Frontline NHS staff.
2. They must PPE all frontline staff.
Whatever method achieves this, then do it. Boris must order Public health England to decentralise and use all sources.
Stop all private testing pro temp and commandere their resources for NHS testing.
I see little value in testing the general public at all.
If it doesn't impact on NHS testing, then as soon as practicable we should do the antibody test as well. NHS staff first again.
Prof Paul Cosford is saying 25000 by mid April. Others are saying that strip the blinkered attitude, decentralise and it could be sooner, and more .
Military thinking is needed here -to source testing equipment, and then get it and use it. Forget the usual paper work to do that- just get it.
Someone has mentioned the Dunkirk spirit, when the little boats made the vital contribution- so , use the same mentality and source this testing the same way.
Come on Boris - Kick Ass.!
Quite agree, high exposure should be tested every day .. simples
 
I'm a few days in with it, yesterday afternoon I was unwell feeling weak and fluey but by evening was improved, bed at 8, today I'm not bad at all. Still feeling the chest discomfort and a little abdominal discomfort now and again but by Sat/Sun that'll be more than 7 days. Headache is lesser now too. Still a little nervous about things going south but so far so good. I'm submitting details via 'covid symptom tracker' app to Kings College London who are collating data which hopefully may prove useful, you submit your symptoms daily. The fever/persistent cough thing is not what happens in a lot of milder cases, there are a wide range of symptoms on their checklists.
 
I'm a few days in with it, yesterday afternoon I was unwell feeling weak and fluey but by evening was improved, bed at 8, today I'm not bad at all. Still feeling the chest discomfort and a little abdominal discomfort now and again but by Sat/Sun that'll be more than 7 days. Headache is lesser now too. Still a little nervous about things going south but so far so good. I'm submitting details via 'covid symptom tracker' app to Kings College London who are collating data which hopefully may prove useful, you submit your symptoms daily. The fever/persistent cough thing is not what happens in a lot of milder cases, there are a wide range of symptoms on their checklists.
That’s positive and the symptoms tracker sounds like a good bit of data collection.. is it cross referenced with your positive test ( ie are they numbered ?) also do they look at your circumstances as well ? As in possible contact points, existing medical conditions and medications?
 
I'm not doctor but I'm pretty sure it's like a thousand times more contagious for a start. I think the symptoms are worse. I googled it for you: https://www.independent.co.uk/life-...d-19-cold-flu-difference-latest-a9389511.html

For a lot of people it's no worse than the flu, but the whole point is that everybody is restricted so as not to spread the virus to people who are at risk of dying, because loads more people would catch it, and nobody has been vaccinated against, basically.

I think maybe you knew all this though, unless you've had your head in the sand for three weeks.

Can't read this sort of statement now without thinking of that press conference where Nigel Pearson lost it and called a reporter an ostrich :ROFLMAO:
 
so the WHO are now saying masks do work and the virus can stay in the air for upto 3 days. that's what sky news have just reported!! ?
I have suppliers in the Far East who have been offering me face masks for the last two weeks. I have been turning them down as the authorities have said they largely do not work and culturally we do not like to wear them. Doh :rolleyes:
 
That’s positive and the symptoms tracker sounds like a good bit of data collection.. is it cross referenced with your positive test ( ie are they numbered ?) also do they look at your circumstances as well ? As in possible contact points, existing medical conditions and medications?

I haven't been formally tested, who has? Not royal or rich.? They do ask for some background and health issues yes. Relevant medications are asked for too.
 
Business Secretary getting slaughtered by the press after an abysmal performance at yesterday's briefing. The Telegraph is particularly scathing which must be worrying for BJ.

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Wonder who they will field today? Rees Mogg? Patel?
 
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