Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

rulefan said:
I would hope not. They don't actually do anything useful in this situation unless you count helping to contain the moisture droplets breathed out by someone who has the virus. I would expect the professional staff are more intelligent than to walk about with the infection.[/QUOTE

Those with beards amuse me. The NHS stops bearded personnel working where masks are needed.
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Hacker Khan said:
I think he was trying to say it is possibly worth debating/questioning/examining our approach versus other countries,.
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But who and how many should be in that debate? Will 500 experts in different fields really come up with a better idea? Aren't the advisers already the experts? Do we laymen get to have our say in this debate? Perhaps Peston should concentrate on thinking things through.
 
Peston is one of the biggest bell ends I've ever heard. Whether its on finances, politics or this current crisis... seriously, there are millions of people out there who have a far better grasp of things and don't need to blow their own trumpet to get the message out there.
 
Robster59 said:
A nice illustration and helpful to remind people to wash their hands.
With cold and flu season upon us, a School in the US decided to try a hygiene science experiment using Bread that they hoped would encourage students to wash their hands and spread fewer germs.
There is an untouched slice, one touched by unwashed hands & the others were handled by hands ‘cleaned’ with hand sanitiser & Soap & Warm Water. They then decided to rub a slice on all their classroom Chromebooks which they usually sanitise.
They then left the bread to "go off" and you can see the bacterial growth on each slice dependant upon the level of cleanliness.
Correct hand washing was shown as the best method of keeping bacteria down. Hand sanitizer alone doesn't do it.
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Much of my working days involved using chemical processes... Which led to an obsession of cleaning hands regularly... Largely prompted by a large poster, at one workplace, of a gentleman's appendage riddled with dermatitis... Kind of focuses you to keep 'em clean before and not just after taking a leak...
 
Swinglowandslow said:
The press conference I have seen from Boris and the two scientists was measured and well done. The sense is there to be heard.
Come the questions , I heard the first two women tv journalists and theirs were as useful as a chocolate teapot.
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Absolutely agree with you. I thought the whole press conference by Boris and the 2 medical/science boffins was very well carried out and shows that they don't want unnecessary panic and speculation causing more issues.

Then the journos and their scare mongering questions begin and thats what sadly they focus on rather than rhe facts
 
Yeah, they did well. It's pretty obvious from the infection numbers that we're a decent distance behind the likes of Italy, and the steps they're putting in place appear to make sense and at this stage are sensible. If they can implement the delay phase successfully we should be in a much better position than Italy and China, I just hope it pans out how they plan.
 
I thought that that was a sobering but very informative press conference, and that our Prime Minister struck exactly the right tone and displayed exactly what I'd hope from him - he exceeded my expectations massively.
 
I think the way this will affect me after Saturday I may avoid overtime

Keep going to work as little as possible
 
Slight diversion. HID fancied a takeaway of Chinese style food. Drove to one - "closed due to unforeseen circumstances". Drove to next, never seen it so quiet .
Hopefully just coincidences
 
IainP said:
Slight diversion. HID fancied a takeaway of Chinese style food. Drove to one - "closed due to unforeseen circumstances". Drove to next, never seen it so quiet .
Hopefully just coincidences
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Had one Saturday night

Ordered 18:25

Arrived 18:45
 
Wolf said:
Absolutely agree with you. I thought the whole press conference by Boris and the 2 medical/science boffins was very well carried out and shows that they don't want unnecessary panic and speculation causing more issues.

Then the journos and their scare mongering questions begin and thats what sadly they focus on rather than rhe facts
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I think the journos did exactly the right thing with their questions - they had to push the experts and Johnson to the limits of speculation, and that is required so that the experts can answer that speculation, and we have the information to counter such as Farage on LBC at the moment casting doubt left, right and centre over the advice of the experts.

Quite disgracefully Farage is picking holes in the words of the Chief Medical and Scientific Officers; thereby undermining the views of the experts and in doing so trying to make himself sound clever by undermining confidence in these same experts. Unlike my view of Johnson which has gone up significantly in the last 2hrs - Farage continues to plumb the depths.
 
IainP said:
Slight diversion. HID fancied a takeaway of Chinese style food. Drove to one - "closed due to unforeseen circumstances". Drove to next, never seen it so quiet .
Hopefully just coincidences
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We had one on Saturday night. We mentioned this at work, tea break time, just chatting. One of the staff looked at me, 'ooo, we are not having Chinese takeaways at the moment, just to be sure' ??. Honestly, those were her words.

It took me a few seconds to take that in and then a few more to formulate my reply so that it didn't include blithering idiot or other such phrases. The general public...........................
 
drdel said:
Perspective...

So for the UK over the last 4 months about - 30,000 people tested; 600 confirmed and 10 deaths; those who died have been elderly suffering underlying conditions.

Last year about 9,333 people died from Road Accidents over the same time period !!
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here’s another perspective. Angela Merkel the chancellor of Germany has said that 70% of Germans will get the virus. 80 odd million people live in Germany. Thats over 50 million expected to get the virus. The death rate is 2% on average. That’s over 1 million that could pop there clogs. At the moment the death rate is about 7% in Italy.
 
I agree with the plans made by the government - after the debacle of the HoC and Brexit it is a very welcome, confidence boosting example of logic.

IMO those countries that have rushed with wide bans are in danger of a backlash from citizens who, after a few weeks will become casual, reactionary and start ignoring the controls.
 
Yes a really good presentation and lots of relevant and useful information.

I think one issue is people want it over and done with as quick as possible and feel if we implement all the things required it will be over sooner and they can move on with their lives. In reality rushing this is going to make things worse as we will not be able to cope with larger numbers in a short space of time, like Italy.
 
Tashyboy said:
here’s another perspective. Angela Merkel the chancellor of Germany has said that 70% of Germans will get the virus. 80 odd million people live in Germany. Thats over 50 million expected to get the virus. The death rate is 2% on average. That’s over 1 million that could pop there clogs. At the moment the death rate is about 7% in Italy.
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To an extent it depends on who catches the virus. If it is the young, middle aged and largely healthy then the rate will be lower. If it is the elderly and those with health problems then it could be scary. Hopefully, as the numbers are currently low in this country, we can cocoon the elderly and vulnerable as we have prior warning. They will have to take extra precautions but at least we have the knowledge and time, hopefully to largely do that.

The worst case scenarios are grim indeed.

Is there a reason why the Italian figure is so high?
 
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