Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

[Tashyboy]

To an extent it depends on who catches the virus. If it is the young, middle aged and largely healthy then the rate will be lower. If it is the elderly and those with health problems then it could be scary. Hopefully, as the numbers are currently low in this country, we can cocoon the elderly and vulnerable as we have prior warning. They will have to take extra precautions but at least we have the knowledge and time, hopefully to largely do that.

The worst case scenarios are grim indeed.

Is there a reason why the Italian figure is so high?

I think the major factor is that Italy has one of the highest ages in the world through a healthy Mediterranean diet.

Me dads got “a bit of Luekemia“. He has also had a triple by pass. I could bloody scream. I have told them not to go out if it’s not urgent. He said he understands. He’s gotta go coz he is gonna nip out for some potato’s.

 

[Tashyboy]

You know the pant wetters will moan about taking the piss out of Saint Diane abacus

I think throughout this a bit of leg pulling is what the country needs.

 

[ColchesterFC]

The death rate of 2% is based on confirmed cases. As the Chief Medical Officer said earlier what they don't know is how many people get it and don't show symptoms or show only minor symptoms. Depending on how high that number it also massively affects the death percentage.

EDIT - Just seen this from the Chief Scientific Officer.....

"There have been 596 confirmed cases across the country. However, the actual number of people infected could be between 5,000 and 10,000, the government's chief scientific adviser Sir Patrick Vallance said".

10 deaths out of 596 confirmed cases is 1.7% death rate. 10 deaths out of 10000 cases is 0.1% death rate.

 

[drdel]

To an extent it depends on who catches the virus. If it is the young, middle aged and largely healthy then the rate will be lower. If it is the elderly and those with health problems then it could be scary. Hopefully, as the numbers are currently low in this country, we can cocoon the elderly and vulnerable as we have prior warning. They will have to take extra precautions but at least we have the knowledge and time, hopefully to largely do that.

The worst case scenarios are grim indeed.

Is there a reason why the Italian figure is so high?

Pure speculation but a few thoughts..
Average age is high
Municipal cleanliness isn't that thorough, (Public Health Inspectors a bit lax on restaurants/cafes etc)
Personal cleanliness is a bit 'French'!
Housing in narrow streets
Warm weather....

 

[User20204]

The death rate of 2% is based on confirmed cases. As the Chief Medical Officer said earlier what they don't know is how many people get it and don't show symptoms or show only minor symptoms. Depending on how high that number it also massively affects the death percentage.

EDIT - Just seen this from the Chief Scientific Officer.....

"There have been 596 confirmed cases across the country. However, the actual number of people infected could be between 5,000 and 10,000, the government's chief scientific adviser Sir Patrick Vallance said".

10 deaths out of 596 confirmed cases is 1.7% death rate. 10 deaths out of 10000 cases is 0.1% death rate.

Are you referring only to the UK in regards the %age of mortality ? If so cool however, world wide the %age is now at 7% of confirmed cases.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

here’s another perspective. Angela Merkel the chancellor of Germany has said that 70% of Germans will get the virus. 80 odd million people live in Germany. Thats over 50 million expected to get the virus. The death rate is 2% on average. That’s over 1 million that could pop there clogs. At the moment the death rate is about 7% in Italy.

They were asked about that at the News Conference by a Journo and in response were told our “worst case” projections were higher than the German one, but that’s purely what it was a worst case projection and they are looking at every possible outcome, good and bad.

I thought the News Conference was excellent and stayed on facts, pointless “guessing” what may or may not happen. It is the “guessing” that is causing the worry and over-reactions from people.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

You know the pant wetters will moan about taking the piss out of Saint Diane abacus

You’re missing the point mate, it’s the fact that she’s the only one Tashy uses for his jokes, which in turn become mundane and unfunny.

No one is saying she’s a saint, just change the tune, just like SILH keeps getting told over boris and brexit.

 

[User20204]

Yeah, they did well. It's pretty obvious from the infection numbers that we're a decent distance behind the likes of Italy, and the steps they're putting in place appear to make sense and at this stage are sensible. If they can implement the delay phase successfully we should be in a much better position than Italy and China, I just hope it pans out how they plan.

Sorry but I have to disagree. We should be implementing the measures that China and Italy have now cause we will have to sooner or later. Public ban on gatherings of over 500 not until Monday, seriously wtf, why not now, do they think it'll run and hide at the threat of a public ban come Monday.

 

[User20204]

here’s another perspective. Angela Merkel the chancellor of Germany has said that 70% of Germans will get the virus. 80 odd million people live in Germany. Thats over 50 million expected to get the virus. The death rate is 2% on average. That’s over 1 million that could pop there clogs. At the moment the death rate is about 7% in Italy.

It was mentioned two weeks ago that around 50 - 80 percent of the population will be infected, Merkel saying that isn't news. The worldwide death percentage is 7%.

 

[Tashyboy]

They were asked about that at the News Conference by a Journo and in response were told our “worst case” projections were higher than the German one, but that’s purely what it was a worst case projection and they are looking at every possible outcome, good and bad.

I thought the News Conference was excellent and stayed on facts, pointless “guessing” what may or may not happen. It is the “guessing” that is causing the worry and over-reactions from people.

Without panicking anyone, the train of thought is that we are about 3-4 weeks behind Italy. SHOULD that be the case I think people need to think they may well be in a situation where they cannot get out of the house. So what would you need. It’s not an answer that needs answering in the next 24 hrs. You have 3 weeks to make plans.
That said I had to chuckle, all the shelves are empty of toilet rolls etc. Yet there’s loads of bleach left on the shelves. Cleaning and killing of germs in not high on folks priorities.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Without panicking anyone, the train of thought is that we are about 3-4 weeks behind Italy. SHOULD that be the case I think people need to think they may well be in a situation where they cannot get out of the house. So what would you need. It’s not an answer that needs answering in the next 24 hrs. You have 3 weeks to make plans.
That said I had to chuckle, all the shelves are empty of toilet rolls etc. Yet there’s loads of bleach left on the shelves. Cleaning and killing of germs in not high on folks priorities.

Did you see the press conference?
It was explained why we are doing what we are and it came across very well.

Slight undertones of (imo) digs at Merkel and trump.

Reasons for the delay were explained by graphs etc and the bottom line, people get bored quickly, so by delaying draconian measures which may not work made sense.

 

[spongebob59]

Italians have the answer :

https://twitter.com/x/status/1238150866890260480

 

[Tashyboy]

They were asked about that at the News Conference by a Journo and in response were told our “worst case” projections were higher than the German one, but that’s purely what it was a worst case projection and they are looking at every possible outcome, good and bad.

I thought the News Conference was excellent and stayed on facts, pointless “guessing” what may or may not happen. It is the “guessing” that is causing the worry and over-reactions from people.

Without panicking anyone, the train of thought is that we are about 3-4 weeks behind Italy. SHOULD that be the case I think people need to think they may well be in a situation where they cannot get out of the house. So what would you need. It’s not an answer that needs answering in the next 24 hrs. You have 3 weeks to make plans.
That said I had to chuckle, all the shelves are empty of toilet rolls etc. Yet there’s loads of bleach left on the shelves. Cleaning and killing of germs in not high on folks priorities.

 

[ColchesterFC]

Are you referring only to the UK in regards the %age of mortality ? If so cool however, world wide the %age is now at 7% of confirmed cases.

Apologies, yes that was only UK cases as they were the figures that I had to hand. But again worldwide mortality rate (thanks for that, that was the phrase I was looking for and it sounds so much better than "death rate") will be based on confirmed cases and will be much lower when unconfirmed cases are taken into account.

NB - I'm not trying to diminish the seriousness of the situation.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Without panicking anyone, the train of thought is that we are about 3-4 weeks behind Italy. SHOULD that be the case I think people need to think they may well be in a situation where they cannot get out of the house. So what would you need. It’s not an answer that needs answering in the next 24 hrs. You have 3 weeks to make plans.
That said I had to chuckle, all the shelves are empty of toilet rolls etc. Yet there’s loads of bleach left on the shelves. Cleaning and killing of germs in not high on folks priorities.

So good you posted twice?

 

[Jacko_G]

There is no need for such emphasis or hike.
It is a serious issue but I was just trying to get away from the emotive language and gain some perspective. What I said was 9333 road deaths over 4 months, its about 30,000 a year.

Utter tosh.

 

[Blue in Munich]

Email this evening that Santana's show at the O2 in March has been postponed. Supposed to be going to the theatre on Monday, wonder if that will still be on?

If Bonamassa cancels in April I will be really hacked off.

 

[Ye Olde Boomer]

It affected my wife and I tonight when some timid friends cancelled dinner plans as they bunker down for the duration.
True, they're old, but so are we.
I wasn't desperate to see them, but I was hoping to not have to cook.

(I don't particularly enjoy cooking, but since I'm Italian and my wife is Irish, who the hell do you think is going to cook?)

 

[Imurg]

Email this evening that Santana's show at the O2 in March has been postponed. Supposed to be going to the theatre on Monday, wonder if that will still be on?

If Bonamassa cancels in April I will be really hacked off.

Judging by the number of tours being cancelled or postponed I think you'll be very lucky to see him this Spring..
Everyone's cancelling..left, right and centre.

 

[Blue in Munich]

Judging by the number of tours being cancelled or postponed I think you'll be very lucky to see him this Spring..
Everyone's cancelling..left, right and centre.

You're such a little ray of sunshine...

Think we made the right decision to drive back rather than stay over, probably wouldn't have got a refund on the hotel.