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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Swango1980 said:
So far, it has had an impact on my fantasy football points, as the City game was postponed and I had Mahrez as captain this week.

Work wise, part of our business runs training courses around the UK. We've had some delegates pull out already, some due to the collapse of flybe, others as they are no longer allowed to travel under their company directives.

Long term, it looks like this could have a massive impact. Just look at Italy.
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I lost my head to head with a guy from work as I paid 4 points to get Silva in for the double game week

Had I left it mane would still be captain and I'd of floored him
 
The issue is surely not to do with impact on richer and poorer - but more to do with the impact on many self-Employed and those on zero hours contracts - and what the chancellor can do for these groups.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
The issue is surely not to do with impact on richer and poorer - but more to do with the impact on many self-Employed and those on zero hours contracts - and what the chancellor can do for these groups.
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The issue is the impact on the whole of society, putting the possible needs of your family first and your priority isn’t very christian of you!
 
Yesterday we did a bigger shopping trip than usual, focussing on stocking up the freezer, which is rarely full. It is now. Tonight is our usual Wednesday night trip along the Playa for a few beers with friends. This invariably means meeting people who’ve just flew in - it will be our last Playa visit till we see how things go in the next few weeks. We’ll continue going to the local bar in the village. And we’ll continue to bowl 3 times a week.

An overreaction? Maybe it is.
 
This is quite an interesting listen. Michael Osterholm is an expert in infectious diseases, from the University of Minnesota. Seems he predicted this a few years back. It comes across as quite a balanced, straight talking set of information.

 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
The issue is surely not to do with impact on richer and poorer - but more to do with the impact on many self-Employed and those on zero hours contracts - and what the chancellor can do for these groups.
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And surely the self employed will have been making provisions for emergencies? Why do so many people rely on the nanny state?

When I was between jobs, for 3 months, in the early 90’s I’d previously saved enough to cover a break from work. I didn’t go cap in hand to anyone.
 
I am / was going to Croatia on hols in my. My wife was a key note speaker at a conference in Dubrovnik. The conference is cancelled, as are her flights. Mine are not, and neither is the weeks holiday. We could book her new flights, but a bit pointless, as I doubt we will now be going.

It's only money though, so much more important to stay healthy.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
The issue is surely not to do with impact on richer and poorer - but more to do with the impact on many self-Employed and those on zero hours contracts - and what the chancellor can do for these groups.
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No it is to do with everyone. Don’t matter if you self employed or not if you are dead. Follow the advice.
 
Am I the only one that thinks that those that thought this corona virus is no worse than the flu. Well the penny is now dropping for them.
 
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Chisteve said:
We are on package deal with Crystal also all lifts in Sestriere are closed - so no
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i bet we was on the same flight home from the Olympic Village?
i thought it was bad that information on self isolation at Birmingham Airport was very limited and not upto date. I have had to do my own digging to find out that I should be self isolating.
one women on the plane said she was sending her son the school the next day!!!!!
 
My wifes school has just sent home a kid with suspected virus

Wonder if the school will shut

Hope so tbh
 
PhilTheFragger said:
We aren’t in the Victorian age now, everybody has access to information and the advice, in this case, is to wash your hands etc

Corona will not care whereabouts in the society ladder you are.

In fact it is fair to say that the “wealthy” ie those that can afford to go abroad, bought it in along with tourists

So cut the crap about it affecting the poor more, it will affect us all, especially those over 60.
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The wealthy will bring it into our society and then the poor will suffer the effects more if it spreads. That’s not crap, it’s simply fact.
 
pauldj42 said:
The issue is the impact on the whole of society, putting the possible needs of your family first and your priority isn’t very christian of you!
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I'm simply saying that those who completely lose their income are likely to struggle more than those who continue to get paid even although their work could be severely impacted or they are off sick or self-isolating.

My son's circumstances will be difficult for him, but his problems are totally mitigated by the fact that we will be able to bail him out.

But I suggest that that will not be the case for most of those in the pretty hard up community in north Sheffield where he lives - for those who know Sheffield he lives in Shirecliffe. Most who live in that community and the neighbouring ones in Sheffield S5, will not have a relatively well off Bank of MaD to go to to help them through.

So in reply to your point - I am not putting the possible needs of my family ahead first - instead I am - as you would expect - most concerned about others in society.

With my concerns being especially for the poorest - and in this situation also those on zero hours contracts and the self-employed.
 
Tashyboy said:
Am I the only one that thinks that those that thought this corona virus is no worse than the flu. Well the penny is now dropping for them.
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I'll hold my hands up to that Tashy, and was also taken in by the stat that said although it was more contagious its mortality rate was lower. The stats released by the WHO today show that the mortality rate is currently 3.4% compared to less than 1% for seasonal flu.
 
Hobbit said:
And surely the self employed will have been making provisions for emergencies? Why do so many people rely on the nanny state?

When I was between jobs, for 3 months, in the early 90’s I’d previously saved enough to cover a break from work. I didn’t go cap in hand to anyone.
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This is true if, when you earn, you earn enough to live OK and at the same time put a bit aside and build up a pot of savings. But many working in the gig and zero hours economies especially - do not earn enough to build up a backup pot of money to tide them through - they simply earn enough to live on. It's all very well saying that they should, but it is not always possible given what they are paid.

BTW - as far as relying on the nanny state - my son was told yesterday that under UC he and his partner will jointly get benefits to the princely sum of £250 - a month...that'll pay their council tax and a couple of weeks gas and electricity (they are on a meter and cannot change to a cheaper power deal)
 
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SwingsitlikeHogan said:
I'm simply saying that those who completely lose their income are likely to struggle more than those who continue to get paid even although their work could be severely impacted or they are off sick or self-isolating.

My son's circumstances will be difficult for him, but his problems are totally mitigated by the fact that we will be able to bail him out.

But I suggest that that will not be the case for most of those in the pretty hard up community in north Sheffield where he lives - for those who know Sheffield he lives in Shirecliffe. Most who live in that community and the neighbouring ones in Sheffield S5, will not have a relatively well off Bank of MaD to go to to help them through.

So in reply to your point - I am not putting the possible needs of my family ahead first - instead I am - as you would expect - most concerned about others in society.

With my concerns being especially for the poorest - and in this situation also those on zero hours contracts and the self-employed.
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You need to re-read your initial post then because you never mentioned the poorest, you simply mentioned the zero hours and self-employed and what the chancellor can do for them!

If he makes any announcement related to the coronavirus today, I’d hope it’s all geared towards the NHS and the medical needs of all the population.
 
pauldj42 said:
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You need to re-read your initial post then because you never mentioned the poorest, you simply mentioned the zero hours and self-employed and what the chancellor can do for them!

If he makes any announcement related to the coronavirus today, I’d hope it’s all geared towards the NHS and the medical needs of all the population.
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I may not have mentioned the poorest in a post because I was posting about one of the main concerns being expressed wider than on this forum - that being the impact on those who are self-employed and who work in the gig economy of any local or wider 'lock-down' and/or cancellation of events.

The poor are always the hardest hit as they have least ability to cope with any loss of income (either from the state or from their work) and then to recover.
 
pauldj42 said:
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You need to re-read your initial post then because you never mentioned the poorest, you simply mentioned the zero hours and self-employed and what the chancellor can do for them!

If he makes any announcement related to the coronavirus today, I’d hope it’s all geared towards the NHS and the medical needs of all the population.
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i think you need to stop being so sensitive and stop trying to read between the lines to start a stupid argument. his first post was clear
 
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