• We'd like to take this opportunity to wish you a Happy Holidays and a very Merry Christmas from all at Golf Monthly. Thank you for sharing your 2025 with us!

Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Liverpoolphil said:
So the R number is now the lowest it’s been since July

https://twitter.com/x/status/1360276133225373698

Imagine how better things will be in month

There is no doubt that restrictions will be eased from the beginning of March IMO

They will not be able to continue with a strict lockdown
Click to expand...
I am not getting the right hand graph. In my experience the X-axis can only be travelled in one direction but this looks like it is coming back on itself? I understand in context that this is a good thing, but what does the graph tell us exactly?
 
larmen said:
I am not getting the right hand graph. In my experience the X-axis can only be travelled in one direction but this looks like it is coming back on itself? I understand in context that this is a good thing, but what does the graph tell us exactly?
Click to expand...

It’s not a timeline graph

It’s showing the level of new admissions and the level of numbers in a bed

So at the peak it was around 4,000 a day and over 30,000 in a bed
 
SocketRocket said:
Surely the time to consider easing restrictions is when hospitals are not filled with Covid patients, death rates have fallen to normal levels, infection rates have fallen to rates that show the virus is under control and it's safe to see that opening things up isn't going to create another surge and lockdown. Yes, vaccinations will help but surely it's far too early for us to relax measures.
Click to expand...

Jeez, hope you are happy with a lockdown until Autumn then. No way are they not going to relax things come March. The question is only how much of a relaxation there is. I agree with others that unrest is likely if nothing is lifted, apart from schools reopening. People have had enough and need some positive news to show how we are going to move out of this.
 
Out of interest when golf reopened last year on 13/5 patients in hospital were just over 11k (they then continued to drop for the next 5 months), this time round they peaked at 39k 18/1 and since then have dropped to 24k on 10/2. We won’t be too far away at current rates from 11k again on 22/2 Feb when the next announcement is scheduled to be made. So if golf isn’t opened in early March I would be extremely surprised.
 
SocketRocket said:
Surely the time to consider easing restrictions is when hospitals are not filled with Covid patients, death rates have fallen to normal levels, infection rates have fallen to rates that show the virus is under control and it's safe to see that opening things up isn't going to create another surge and lockdown. Yes, vaccinations will help but surely it's far too early for us to relax measures.
Click to expand...

The country and millions can’t wait until then as that above will talk all year and into autumn, by that time the affect on the population will be imo even harsher than the virus

They have to relax restrictions in March - people have done what they asked to help protect the NHS and get groups 1-4 vaccinated- that was the aim they stated, if they go beyond 2 months lockdown then the country will react
 
For me, anyway, a bit of a concern as to what is occurring in Melbourne... Believe they've managed the virus very well in Oz... So was quite surprised when they appeared to have relaxed the rules to allow spectators at the AO... Seems to have bitten them on the bum somewhat...
 
I am accepting of the lockdown here and the restrictions as you can see the effects on the NHS as well as the horrific number of deaths and illnesses - all this correctly scares me to want to follow the rules. However if I was in a city like Perth, where there was one infection (no deaths, no one in hospital just one positive test) and they immediately locked down everyone for 5 days with no warning, the sheer hassle of having to have all your plans turned upside down would be galling to say the least.
 
SteveJay said:
Jeez, hope you are happy with a lockdown until Autumn then. No way are they not going to relax things come March. The question is only how much of a relaxation there is. I agree with others that unrest is likely if nothing is lifted, apart from schools reopening. People have had enough and need some positive news to show how we are going to move out of this.
Click to expand...
We are all fed up of this...I can be as fed up of this as anyone, but I know that if I stop swimming when I am out of my depth I will drown - and so I keep swimming until my feet can touch the bottom. Only then can I safely stop swimming. But I agree on one thing - I need someone to direct me to where I might find shallow water or tell me roughly how long it'll take for the tide to go out. But I know I must just keep going for as long as it takes. When I get very fed up I just tell myself to do life one day at a time - and I refuse to let myself think 'I've had enough' as that would just be me feeling sorry for myself.
 
MegaSteve said:
For me, anyway, a bit of a concern as to what is occurring in Melbourne... Believe they've managed the virus very well in Oz... So was quite surprised when they appeared to have relaxed the rules to allow spectators at the AO... Seems to have bitten them on the bum somewhat...
Click to expand...

It has bitten them on the bum, but you've got to respect the immediate action they've taken. No procrastinating. No spectators, lockdown with immediate effect. The only other thing they might have done was cancel the tournament.
 
DanFST said:
What ultimately is the goal? From a medical perspective. I bought into protecting the NHS. Hopefully going forward the groups taking reprasetatively the most hospital space are protected.


The goal can't be to eliminate spread right? Borders are open, I can get back from Brazil, still. This will happen again.
Click to expand...

What does protecting the NHS mean? You can protect it pretty well by vaccinating people likely to transmit Covid. Even though younger people might not die, they can gum up the NHS with admissions. The people at highest risk of personal harm are not necessarily those who place the greatest pressures on the NHS.

The basic principles of public health pandemic response are 1. Keep it out 2. Keep it from spreading. If 1 is done well, as Oz and NZ are doing, then 2 becomes less of a problem. In my opinion, the borders should have been tightened considerably a year ago, and I suspect we would be in a better place now.

Brazil is a red list country. You can't get back legally without quarantine.
 
MegaSteve said:
For me, anyway, a bit of a concern as to what is occurring in Melbourne... Believe they've managed the virus very well in Oz... So was quite surprised when they appeared to have relaxed the rules to allow spectators at the AO... Seems to have bitten them on the bum somewhat...
Click to expand...

It’s all about money, I’m amazed how much “elite “ sport goes on and what they are allowed to get up to. It’s no wonder that some in the country act like they do.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
We are all fed up of this...I can be as fed up of this as anyone, but I know that if I stop swimming when I am out of my depth I will drown - and so I keep swimming until my feet can touch the bottom. Only then can I safely stop swimming. But I agree on one thing - I need someone to direct me to where I might find shallow water or tell me roughly how long it'll take for the tide to go out. But I know I must just keep going for as long as it takes. When I get very fed up I just tell myself to do life one day at a time - and I refuse to let myself think 'I've had enough' as that would just be me feeling sorry for myself.
Click to expand...
https://www.tidetimes.org.uk/
 
Like I thought, I am now far more motivated. I am seeing big improvements, that little bit that I am doing is working and so I feel less down about lockdown and feel committed to keep going. A month ago I would have broken restrictions in a heartbeat as I just did not see it working and the bad news was getting to me. Now I see some light I am happy to dig in for a bit longer to keep the better news coming.
 
SteveJay said:
Jeez, hope you are happy with a lockdown until Autumn then. No way are they not going to relax things come March. The question is only how much of a relaxation there is. I agree with others that unrest is likely if nothing is lifted, apart from schools reopening. People have had enough and need some positive news to show how we are going to move out of this.
Click to expand...
I'm not happy with any lockdowns, I'd rather be up the pub or playing golf. My point is that it's completely stupid to ease things too quickly, the time to get back to a more normal life is to get the situation under control. We've tried tiers and lockdown light but it hasn't worked. The vaccinations will help but the current levels of one jab for the over 70s isn't enough, we need more time to get deaths and infections under control otherwise we will be back where we are now.

Regarding the civil disobedience, I don't buy into that one, just look at how Spain and many other countries have controlled it. We've had it easy here.
 
Ethan said:
The people at highest risk of personal harm are not necessarily those who place the greatest pressures on the NHS.

The basic principles of public health pandemic response are 1. Keep it out 2. Keep it from spreading. If 1 is done well, as Oz and NZ are doing, then 2 becomes less of a problem. In my opinion, the borders should have been tightened considerably a year ago, and I suspect we would be in a better place now.

Brazil is a red list country. You can't get back legally without quarantine.
Click to expand...

Not Necessarily, but in this instance hospitals are overwhelming full of those at highest personal risk right? Especially in proportional representation?

Totally agree with the above, however the enforcement isn't there. So what's the point? It borders on political so can't entertain that much more. But I know for a fact I could get back from any red list country within 48 hours, without quarantine via another country. This maybe hear say, but aren't we using PCR test exactly how they were designed not to be used?

(EDIT: don't PCR's detect less that 50% of positive cases in Asymptomatic carriers. If 1-3 is Asymptomatic, they miss just over 16% of positive cases)
 
DanFST said:
We've had a year of lockdowns and I've followed the guidelines meticulously. Might as well not be alone for another year and try and enjoy myself.
Click to expand...

Precisely this, YOU have one life. Live it
SteveJay said:
Jeez, hope you are happy with a lockdown until Autumn then. No way are they not going to relax things come March. The question is only how much of a relaxation there is. I agree with others that unrest is likely if nothing is lifted, apart from schools reopening. People have had enough and need some positive news to show how we are going to move out of this.
Click to expand...

Autumn? I like your optimism!

Unrest is unlikely we’ve already rolled over, tolerated it for a year and submitted and set precedent for more lockdowns. And they’ve made protesting against it illegal.
This won’t be the last lockdown. Any roadmap out will likely change as it has done already. They will let you go to the pub or visit the hills in summer then straight back in your cell.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top