Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Fade and Die said:
News explained. ?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1350527440058253312
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While it’s certainly true that news will often focus on negative events, it’s also completely bogus to suggest the mainstream media are or have been fear-mongering over Covid. If anything they’ve been too kind in their condemnation of our handling of it and of the general population’s attitudes. They’re scared to chase away their audience by telling the truth.
 
https://twitter.com/x/status/1350856711175856129

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...e-vaccinate-nation-against-new-covid-strains/

There are lot more positive areas to concentrate on in regards the current situation

The vaccine program is going on and now we are above the infection rate

The R number in the UK is dropping ,

The number of cases is dropping

There is light at the end of the tunnel and we will be back to normal soon enough

Lockdown will ease in 4/5 weeks , Tier systems will go by June - life will move on

Pubs , Restaurants, hospitality, shops , golf clubs will blossom

The country in the past has faced worse times and got through

There will always be stats that can be produced to scare people - time to move past them
 
DanFST said:
Sorry, are you unable to read?

"You have to hand it to the government in this one instance, we are currently doing very well."
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But we aren’t. We’re not vaccinating properly. The government have spread the doses farther apart than guidance says they should purely so they can claim more people are immune. Once again they’ve picked politicking over the greater good.
 
DanFST said:
Here's a graph to make it easier for you. (y)

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i have been very critical of Govt over many aspects of Covid, but I agree they are doing well so far on vaccination. They got a jump with earlier approval, and it remains to be seen if that advantage is maintained, and I support the stragey of giving one shot to as many as possible. This is a population vaccination strategy and the bang for your buck is higher that way.

There are a couple of challenges coming. Vaccine supply is the current rate limiter for this programme (staffing may be a later rate limiter) and there are some possible dips in supply coming just as the plans are to scale up. Not booking Moderna soon enough was a mistake, we won't get any until April whereas the EU is getting their now, so we may be dependent on the Johnson and Johnson one shot vaccine coming through in order to fill the gap. One shot also makes the logistics a lot easier. It is due to report phase III results soon. The other great hope, the GSK/Sanofi vaccine, looks to have stepped on a banana skin.
 
Kellfire said:
But we aren’t. We’re not vaccinating properly. The government have spread the doses farther apart than guidance says they should purely so they can claim more people are immune. Once again they’ve picked politicking over the greater good.
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Under the advise of the experts, people have the choice to believe or disbelieve the experts or if they have given that advise.

None on here will be able to prove or disprove it.

One of the problems I have at the moment is with the apparent news that some areas are now moving on to the 70+ group with the vaccine, I am a NHS responder and also used for telephone chats and the big issue is responding to those over 80 who have yet to receive an invitation for a jab and trying to come up with a reason as to why that vaccines that can be redistributed don’t appear to have been.
 
Old Skier said:
Under the advise of the experts, people have the choice to believe or disbelieve the experts or if they have given that advise.

None on here will be able to prove or disprove it.

One of the problems I have at the moment is with the apparent news that some areas are now moving on to the 70+ group with the vaccine, I am a NHS responder and also used for telephone chats and the big issue is responding to those over 80 who have yet to receive an invitation for a jab and trying to come up with a reason as to why that vaccines that can be redistributed don’t appear to have been.
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I don't think there is any suggestion that the over 80s are fully sorted, but like at the airport, they call forward the next group while some of the previous one are still in the queue. It moves faster overall that way.
 
DanFST said:
Good news, We are now vaccinating faster than infections.

Hopefully a light at the end of the tunnel. You have to hand it to the government in this one instance, we are currently doing very well.

May annoy some, but in this instance, Brexit helped us.
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Not annoying but getting it done right is key.
Bothered about the mad rush and rollout for Pfizer 2 jab tretament with makers originally saying it should 3 weeks between doses for max effectiveness, govt let people think they were on a 3 week repeat schedule but now saying 12 weeks for 2nd jab which in all likelihood could mean longer, major stress for lots of people who've had jab 1. What are Pfizer and medics saying about that delay? - is it 3 weeks or is it 12 weeks? - what are the consequences of the delay? - maybe no one really knows because it's brand new but the pharma co. experts did the testing and wanted 3 weeks. That seems to have been conveniently brushed aside by govt.
Should they not keep the doses back in order to repeat dose those who've had one jab already to the recommended 3 week repeat dose?
Better less people fully inoculated than more people ineffectively inoculated just to improve stats and feebly spin it as some kind of win of brexit.:rolleyes:
 
maxfli65 said:
Better less people fully inoculated than more people ineffectively inoculated just to improve stats and feebly spin it as some kind of win of brexit.:rolleyes:
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Is it tho? What research have you done that dismisses those done by our scientists?


The "win" for brexit, is that we have been able to procure way more doses than EU countries as we don't have to deal with the "common strategy". Note that we could've approved the use of a vaccine independently of the EU if we were still in, but procurement would have been an issue.
 
maxfli65 said:
Better less people fully inoculated than more people ineffectively inoculated just to improve stats and feebly spin it as some kind of win of brexit.:rolleyes:
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What a load of nonsense. What medical qualifications do you have to say that it's better to have fewer people with both jabs rather than more people with one jab? We've got Ethan on here with medical training supporting the current process. Why do you think he's wrong?

And where is the spin? The numbers being published each day show the total number of vaccinations carried out and the total number that have received both the first and second injections. Seems as though you are so blinded by your dislike of the current government that you are unable to give them any credit when they do finally seem to be getting one part of their pandemic response correct.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
I do not disagree one iota - yes - me and my Mrs always go single file when passing others - many walkers do not and that does irk us a little. Often we can tell in advance of passing if they are going to go single file and if our guess is not we will stand aside. However my observation remains. My experience of taking a walk with my wife pretty much every day for the last 10months (that being our pandemic exercise) is simply that walkers do the vast majority of the standing aside/waiting/retracing of steps, and that runners and cyclists will rarely 'drop pace' and any acknowledgement given is often cursory rather than appreciative. Just saying.
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I can assure you as a walker, runner & cyclist, all have ignorant people, most runners and cyclists though are far more aware of their surroundings as some walkers are in a world of their own and can not walk in a straight line.
No one group is beyond reproach.
 
DanFST said:
Is it tho? What research have you done that dismisses those done by our scientists?

The "win" for brexit, is that we have been able to procure way more doses than EU countries as we don't have to deal with the "common strategy". Note that we could've approved the use of a vaccine independently of the EU if we were still in, but procurement would have been an issue.
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We dont know and that's the point. If a pharmaceutical manufacturer recommends after intense research/trials doses at 3 weeks apart, surely that's not just an arbitrary timeframe? Govt told us 3 weeks apart as well when rollout started...until they found the supply chain can't keep up....then extend timeframe to suit. Hardly inspires confidence.

Cant do politics alas so the B word shouldn't have come up.
 
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ColchesterFC said:
What a load of nonsense. What medical qualifications do you have to say that it's better to have fewer people with both jabs rather than more people with one jab? We've got Ethan on here with medical training supporting the current process. Why do you think he's wrong?

And where is the spin? The numbers being published each day show the total number of vaccinations carried out and the total number that have received both the first and second injections. Seems as though you are so blinded by your dislike of the current government that you are unable to give them any credit when they do finally seem to be getting one part of their pandemic response correct.
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I have friends who work in health who have been given their first dose on the agreement the second dose would be within three weeks. Two of them were told later that day that it would now be twelve weeks. They are considering legal action becauae of the paperwork they signed to get their first dose and the contract has been broken without evidence to support it.

If this decision ends up causing reduced immunity, it is surely the last straw for this administration.
 
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