Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

JamesR said:
I read an interesting article about Taiwan.
They have specific Covid lockdown hotels. So when you arrive in the country as a visitor you are tested, you go straight to one of those hotels, you are provided with 3 meals a day, and are contacted daily to make sure you are there and well.
Then after your lockdown period has ended you are allowed out and are still contacted daily, to ensure you are well.
Thus people can go into the country, but they have a system in place to minimise risk. Which I'm not aware we ever did.
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I believe NZ did something similar. A pal went out with her hubby for some business. First week was in a Covid hotel, she then developed a sore throat ( air con ). So had another week in hotel. When she came out the area she stayed in went into lockdown the day after. It was still in lockdown when she came back. She had one day of freedom ?
 
AmandaJR said:
I agree and can't see what other choice we have. This new varient is spreading like wildfire.
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We've gone from 26 in the whole trust on Friday to 76 today. They are those needing hospital treatment so imagine how many have been infected in that period that are now at home. This is far more prevalent and spreading than the first strain. Can't see any other answer but a strict lockdown. I'd rather not have any tier system but back to a version we had at the start of all this where it was unambiguous about what you could and couldn't do or where you could and couldn't go. KISS (keep it simple stupid) springs to mind especially seeing some of the idiots locally and on the news ignoring social distancing and masks. Leave them no excuse
 
Jamesbrown said:
That was always happening anyway. That’s the price to pay for Christmas mingling. The rules may of changed but many will still go ahead with the plans they had previously.
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Am not to sure it’s to do with Christmas mingling ( a Royle family term) ? Am positive that if Christmas was not this week, we would already be in a national lockdown.
 
Always look on the bright side of life :eek:
EDIT - Seemingly it's actually the summer of 1915 in Gallipoli, my mistake :p
 

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Neighbours daughter flew back from Italy few days ago, was out walking with the family, looks like the isolating is applicable. I came back 2 weeks earlier to do my isolating ... been locked away with no walks .. we are giving all the neighbours a wide berth they also seem to be pushing the boundaries of acceptable
 
Had to nip into town to pick a present up for my lad, I noticed 3 different UBER cars with plates from Manchester and Rochdale, Tier 3 in Tier 2 zones.
 
I really don't see any comparison with oz and NZ. Both have significantly different population densities as well as climates that we all know are less conducive to the spread of the virus.

Has our government made mistakes. Most definatley, but I personally lay the fault at the publics feet as much as anyone's.

We're all golfers. We generally agree it's a game with greater morales than say football. Yet I've seen many (myself included), that justify their actions because it's "not agaisnt the rules".
 
DanFST said:
Just went to Tesco to pick up some food for the upcoming stretch (I go after midnight as no one is there). Loads of food on shelves, didn't see anything out of stock apart from Prosecco.

It's almost like the media are wanting to whip up a panic.
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I'll wait until I read it in the Daily Mail - then I know it's true ;)
 
SatchFan said:
Done my final top-up shop at Sainsbury's. Everything in stock. I even picked up a bag of salad. Might sell it on Ebay.
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Sainsbury's around me was the same; full of stock, empty of people. No sign of Xmas rush even! Maybe today is different but that was yesterday. There were more people stacking shelves mid morning than people shopping!

I must say the trend of fuller trollies, fewer people did seem to continue but not enough to empty shelves.
 
Stuart_C said:
Had to nip into town to pick a present up for my lad, I noticed 3 different UBER cars with plates from Manchester and Rochdale, Tier 3 in Tier 2 zones.
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Movement is allowed for work purposes. It's easy to get paranoid at the moment but we often can't tell whether what people are doing is legitimate or reckless and selfish. Deep breathes, find inner peace (I may have quoted from Kung Fu Panda there ?)
 
Papas1982 said:
I really don't see any comparison with oz and NZ. Both have significantly different population densities as well as climates that we all know are less conducive to the spread of the virus.

Has our government made mistakes. Most definatley, but I personally lay the fault at the publics feet as much as anyone's.

We're all golfers. We generally agree it's a game with greater morales than say football. Yet I've seen many (myself included), that justify their actions because it's "not agaisnt the rules".
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Population density is much misunderstood. It might be fine in an argument showing how an infection moves more quickly in Tower Hamlets than in Chiswick, but on a country level it is very misleading. The empty spaces that contribute a lot to the denominator have so few people they don't really matter. Canada is one of the biggest countries in the world but 90% of the people live in 10% of the space. The effective population density for areas where is population is much higher.

NZ won because they did stage 1 of Public Health 101 very well, they kept the virus out by sealing the borders. We could have done the same and the economic price would have been lower than what we are paying anyway. Stage 2 is stopping it moving around, but that is only necessary of you fail on stage 1.
 
DanFST said:
Just went to Tesco to pick up some food for the upcoming stretch (I go after midnight as no one is there). Loads of food on shelves, didn't see anything out of stock apart from Prosecco.

It's almost like the media are wanting to whip up a panic.
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I was in Tesco at 06.10 this morning and it was very busy compared to normal days at that time.
All items seemed to be in stock though.
I even got some mince pies.....12 for £1.50
 
Some more information available over the new variant, interesting :-

https://www.coronavirus-fraser-group.org/files/files/updated_report_to_nervtag_oxford_20201222.pdf

David Bonsall on Twitter: "An updated version of our report, investigating an association between SARS-COV-2 viral load and mutations associated with the new U.K. variant is linked here. https://t.co/UvNhqdPvkN" / Twitter

If you are into reading this kind of stuff.

Shops have plenty up here, but do have an oversupply around this area, thanks to loads of new supermarkets being built in the last 2-3 years
 
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