Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Lord Tyrion said:
Has the approach worked better in the UK, Italy, Spain, France etc? Swedes managed to live their lives in relative normality, their businesses have kept going. They are having a tough time now but aren't we all?

People, not pointing a finger at you SiLH, seem desperate to deride Sweden as they tried a different approach. Perhaps they were not right but I'm not sure many countries are in a position to judge and maybe judging can only be done in 2-3 years time when we look at this in the whole?
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Even the King of Sweden has come out and said they got it badly wrong
 
Liverpoolphil said:
I think it’s very hard to compare countries and the actions towards Covid

I believe we should have done things differently at certain stages and there appears to be a lot that hasn’t gone right and even without hindsight I suspect many would have chosen a different path

But places like New Zealand and indeed Australia whilst being islands are different in many ways - culture , population density and crucially the ability to close themselves off

Both were able to close all flights into the countries to contain the virus

Is that something that we could do ? I didn’t tbink so but happy to be told otherwise
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I read an interesting article about Taiwan.
They have specific Covid lockdown hotels. So when you arrive in the country as a visitor you are tested, you go straight to one of those hotels, you are provided with 3 meals a day, and are contacted daily to make sure you are there and well.
Then after your lockdown period has ended you are allowed out and are still contacted daily, to ensure you are well.
Thus people can go into the country, but they have a system in place to minimise risk. Which I'm not aware we ever did.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
I think it’s very hard to compare countries and the actions towards Covid

I believe we should have done things differently at certain stages and there appears to be a lot that hasn’t gone right and even without hindsight I suspect many would have chosen a different path

But places like New Zealand and indeed Australia whilst being islands are different in many ways - culture , population density and crucially the ability to close themselves off

Both were able to close all flights into the countries to contain the virus

Is that something that we could do ? I didn’t tbink so but happy to be told otherwise
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Maybe someone will tell you otherwise, but that doesn't change the reality of it. It doesn't make them right and you wrong.
I agree that comparing Oz and particularly New Zealand with us is apples and oranges.
This Country is a financial/business hub of an international nature. The comings and goings are far far different to NZ.
NZ has location, population and its economy nature on its side.
Even further fortunate, and able to illustrate the easier ability to deal with the virus, is a place like Mauritius. As one of our number has been able to inform us of how it is dealt with there. ( I would really love to visit there and play golf there. Looks like a golfers paradise?)
I don't think we were ever able to cut ourselves off as well as we would need to. The rules necessary to do that would be too readily broken in this country
( as we have seen)
 
It has now been almost a year since I saw my family. The last time I was together with my Children was at the Epsom races between Christmas and New Year 2019. I haven't seen my Mum (who is 97) or my brother or any of my family for a year, nor do I know when I will get to see them again in the flesh. We haven't been anywhere away from home since that time (apart from me travelling once on business the night Boris announced lockdown) and so all we have is in the house.
However, we haven't killed each other (yet) and there are lots of other people in a worse situation than us. We still have our jobs and our house. Our family has stayed free of the virus (touch wood) and we can only hope next year will be better.
 
Robster59 said:
It has now been almost a year since I saw my family. The last time I was together with my Children was at the Epsom races between Christmas and New Year 2019. I haven't seen my Mum (who is 97) or my brother or any of my family for a year, nor do I know when I will get to see them again in the flesh. We haven't been anywhere away from home since that time (apart from me travelling once on business the night Boris announced lockdown) and so all we have is in the house.
However, we haven't killed each other (yet) and there are lots of other people in a worse situation than us. We still have our jobs and our house. Our family has stayed free of the virus (touch wood) and we can only hope next year will be better.
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Pretty fair assessment of my position as well, thankful for what I do have as there are thousands far worse off than I am as a result of this.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
Has the approach worked better in the UK, Italy, Spain, France etc? Swedes managed to live their lives in relative normality, their businesses have kept going. They are having a tough time now but aren't we all?

People, not pointing a finger at you SiLH, seem desperate to deride Sweden as they tried a different approach. Perhaps they were not right but I'm not sure many countries are in a position to judge and maybe judging can only be done in 2-3 years time when we look at this in the whole?
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As most are aware here already I’m Swedish, so I’ve been following the doings of both the UK and Sweden as one place is where I live, whilst the other is my “home”.

You have to understand that Sweden is a very peculiar country, which rely on consensus amongst the population, until the day comes when the nationwide consensus thinking takes a 180 degree turn, and “everybody” has had that view/opinion the whole time.
Anyone in Sweden who even dared to question the Swedish approach in the early days were demonised, probably a lunatic, and most certainly in cahoots with “the Russians”.

Sweden has not fared any better economically than our closest neighbour, but we have been “better” in terms of amount of dead.

Even now, the ski resorts are open, the “restrictions” is set to a maximum of 4 people per table in restaurants and recommendation to use face mask on trains and buses has been taken - from the 7th of January!

The UK politicians certainly hasn’t gone through this without mistakes, and plenty of them, but I’d say it’s been better dealt with than my home country.
 
Lilyhawk said:
The UK politicians certainly hasn’t gone through this without mistakes, and plenty of them, but I’d say it’s been better dealt with than my home country.
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Although given the coverage on the BBC, this, you'd think the everyone in the UK was dead and the rest of the world has escaped scot free! :-) (only partially joking!)
 
JamesR said:
I read an interesting article about Taiwan.
They have specific Covid lockdown hotels. So when you arrive in the country as a visitor you are tested, you go straight to one of those hotels, you are provided with 3 meals a day, and are contacted daily to make sure you are there and well.
Then after your lockdown period has ended you are allowed out and are still contacted daily, to ensure you are well.
Thus people can go into the country, but they have a system in place to minimise risk. Which I'm not aware we ever did.
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Basically the same as Qatar.
 
IanM said:
Although given the coverage on the BBC, this, you'd think the everyone in the UK was dead and the rest of the world has escaped scot free! :) (only partially joking!)
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I'd say we see glimpses of that in this thread as well from time to time. Perhaps the BBC has infiltrated the forum? :)
 
Lilyhawk said:
I'd say we see glimpses of that in this thread as well from time to time. Perhaps the BBC has infiltrated the forum? :)
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You are turning into a "Little Englander!" :-)

My cousin in Australia wanted to send us food parcels based on what she heard on the BBC News! Thought we were 3 days away from eating the dogs!
 
JamesR said:
I don’t know about that.

Just seemed to me that they are very strict early on, and then life gets pretty normal.
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Our son and his family could have flown straight into the UK for Christmas.

But on their return to Qatar they would have to quarantine for two weeks turning a fortnight away from the office into a month and, thus, impractical.
 
IanM said:
Although given the coverage on the BBC, this, you'd think the everyone in the UK was dead and the rest of the world has escaped scot free! :) (only partially joking!)
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My impression is that it's not just the BBC who choose to depict the situation in such a way - if indeed they do - so not sure why it is the BBC that is often picked up for comment on it's coverage. We watch Sky News and Channel 4 news as well as the BBC News, and listen to BBC R4 and LBC news on the radio, and I don't detect that much difference. Indeed we prefer Ch4 News as they seem to be able say it just how they see it without fear of being accused of bias.
 
IanM said:
Although given the coverage on the BBC, this, you'd think the everyone in the UK was dead and the rest of the world has escaped scot free! :) (only partially joking!)
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It's only "Scot free" because the English subsidise it :LOL::ROFLMAO::LOL::ROFLMAO: Happy Xmas Doon!
 
Tough day. Massive spike in admissions to the trust and have now implemented full escalation process in ICU to cope with the expected increase, on top of the 16 ICU patients and 6 Covid ICU patients we have to date. Lots of work to do tomorrow and feeling like I'm running on empty so glad of the break coming up. Got a horrid feeling there won't be much Christmas cheer around the unit this festive period
 
First hand seeing how quick this new covid spreads is quite eye opening

During first lockdown we had 2-3 cases at work.. people worked entire shifts with them never got it

This time one postive case has resulted in 3 others so far

My mates daughters got it

And my playing partner has it

My best mate has it

Some people say the south east were careless etc but tbh before this I've known 2-3 people first hand have covid

This month alone I know 6

Stay safe people
 
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Continuing the sobering theme. From the figures the worldometer site collates, today the UK became the 11th country to reach the 1000 deaths per million population ?
The USA will no doubt join in the next few days.
 
pauljames87 said:
First hand seeing how quick this new covid spreads is quite eye opening

During first lockdown we had 2-3 cases at work.. people worked entire shifts with them never got it

This time one postive case has resulted in 3 others so far

My mates daughters got it

And my playing partner has it

My best mate has it

Some people say the south east were careless etc but tbh before this I've known 2-3 people first hand have covid

This month alone I know 6

Stay safe people
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Seems like it gone through my office too. So much so they have fully closed it this week. 1 person at the beginning of last week in part of the building looks like they have spread it to quite a few others.
 
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