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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Lord Tyrion said:
I don't think they are asking people to wear surgical masks. It could be any old scarf or covering. People may be digging out their old Palestinian scarves from university days ?.
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Backache said:
I think the advice has changed as a result of a bit more understanding about the virus and thoughts about the purpose of facemasks.
The recommendation that facemasks gave little protection was largely based on the fact that people take them off and fiddle and will be transferring things on it back to themselves anyway. I don't think this has changed much as an idea.
What has changed a bit is the thought of how wearing a facemask can protect others from the wearer.
It is now thought that a fair bit of the transmission may come before people get symptoms. If people are wearing masks they are less likely to project respiratory droplets to others as they will be trapped by the mask.
ie The mask is to protect others not the wearer.
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Boris today said he is all for it if it gives people confidence to leave the house. Some people have not left their house for nearly 6 weeks. It could make a huge difference to their well being. Also look at it this way most golfers have pitch mark repairers but how many actually use them properly or at all. Same with face masks, stick a mask on an idiot and he will still infect somebody due to being a thick lout.
 
Diamond said:
Boris today said he is all for it if it gives people confidence to leave the house. Some people have not left their house for nearly 6 weeks. It could make a huge difference to their well being. Also look at it this way most golfers have pitch mark repairers but how many actually use them properly or at all. Same with face masks, stick a mask on an idiot and he will still infect somebody due to being a thick lout.
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What a ridiculous comment.:rolleyes:
 
Guessing advice also changes on circumstance. Facemasks when compared to spending most of the time at home are not great, not going to make much difference when only going out occasionally, social distancing etc. When everyone is allowed out again and there are more people around, they may make more of a difference.
 
Diamond said:
Boris today said he is all for it if it gives people confidence to leave the house. Some people have not left their house for nearly 6 weeks. It could make a huge difference to their well being. Also look at it this way most golfers have pitch mark repairers but how many actually use them properly or at all. Same with face masks, stick a mask on an idiot and he will still infect somebody due to being a thick lout.
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What Boris said and what the Science says are somewhat different though.
I was answering as to why the recommendations have changed a bit from a Scientific point of view.
 
Backache said:
What Boris said and what the Science says are somewhat different though.
I was answering as to why the recommendations have changed a bit from a Scientific point of view.
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Boris is not a scientist and doesn’t have the same opportunity to change his mind as frequently. Saying that he did let slip some I info about the new rules about lockdown next week. One being the fact that psychologically wearing a mask can be a benefit. But like anything the wearer needs to have common sense and still social distance, not go out unless vital and wash hands religiously.
 
Diamond said:
I need new trousers (2 sizes up) and a good hair cut. Also very concerned for the oldest profession in the world, how will those girls cope post lockdown. :eek:
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Are you worried because of all the fatter blokes squashing them?
 
bobmac said:
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Or the alternative version.
Stay Home
Keep Quiet
Save the Government

Very strange how the folk on here who vigorously attacked Scots Independence supporters when they pointed out the flaws and bias in BBC reporting seem to have totally flip flopped on their views that the BBC were to be trusted to be totally impartial.
What has changed.

BTW, for clarity the Scottish government recommended face COVERINGS to be worn on public transport and in food shops.
Not specifically face masks.
 
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Delivered, yesterday, an oximeter and some hairclippers... Here's hoping I don't need the use of either... But, judging by the look in her eye the hairclippers will be in use sooner rather than later...

And, in serious need of IT support which will likely have to wait for lockdown to end...
 
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MegaSteve said:
Delivered, yesterday, an oximeter and some hairclippers... Here's hoping I don't need the use of either... But, judging by the look in her eye the hairclippers will be in use sooner rather than later...

And, in serious need of IT support which will likely have to wait for lockdown to end...
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We have plenty of IT folks who can throw a keyboard further than they can hit their drivers.... So feel free to start a new thread and de-Fragger will be on it straightaway :)
 
Just a quickie re this Restaurant factor.

Understand the spread etc. Re >1:<1 However

The figures quoted is between 0.6 and 0.9. How is this calculated please and it seems a huge amount of variance?

Many thanks for any input
 
3offTheTee said:
Just a quickie re this Restaurant factor.

Understand the spread etc. Re >1:<1 However

The figures quoted is between 0.6 and 0.9. How is this calculated please and it seems a huge amount of variance?

Many thanks for any input
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From what I heard yesterday, the figure of 0.6 to .09 is due to regional variance, some areas lower, some higher but in general in that range.
 
3offTheTee said:
Just a quickie re this Restaurant factor.

Understand the spread etc. Re >1:<1 However

The figures quoted is between 0.6 and 0.9. How is this calculated please and it seems a huge amount of variance?

Many thanks for any input
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Here is a link >> https://www.express.co.uk/news/worl...t-is-the-r-value-what-does-R-mean-coronavirus

If instead of the Express, you want a more scientific approach then here >> https://labblog.uofmhealth.org/rounds/how-scientists-quantify-intensity-of-an-outbreak-like-covid-19

The paper which discusses how to >> https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/25/1/17-1901_article
 
3offTheTee said:
Just a quickie re this Restaurant factor.

Understand the spread etc. Re >1:<1 However

The figures quoted is between 0.6 and 0.9. How is this calculated please and it seems a huge amount of variance?

Many thanks for any input
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Unless you have very accurate knowledge of the numbers infected it cannot be calculated. It is instead estimated using mathematical model and proxies for infection.
The reasons for the differences are partly due to differences indifferent parts of the country as suggested above but also because different models give different answers.
The chief scientist yesterday suggested they are going to do larger scale randomised testing to get a better estimate.
 
Hobbit said:
Spain's numbers continue to improve.

Yesterday saw the lowest number of new infections since whenever at just over 1,300. Recoveries are now comfortably outstripping deaths and new infections.

Deaths for yesterday was down to 268, the lowest since whenever.

Everything going in the right direction but, as before, we shouldn't lose sight of the pain being suffered by so many families.

Stay safe folks.
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And continue to improve.

New infections drop even further to less than 1,200.
New deaths up by 13 to 281 but less than 300 for the second day running.

Tomorrow sees us outside our gate for exercise, but only up to 1km from our gate and we can go together. Believe me, this is a massive plus for us. And as the population of the village is less than 5,000(2,755) we can go out at any time. Those towns with more than 5,000 get 2x 1 hour time slots dependent on age.
 
Hobbit said:
And continue to improve.

New infections drop even further to less than 1,200.
New deaths up by 13 to 281 but less than 300 for the second day running.

Tomorrow sees us outside our gate for exercise, but only up to 1km from our gate and we can go together. Believe me, this is a massive plus for us. And as the population of the village is less than 5,000(2,755) we can go out at any time. Those towns with more than 5,000 get 2x 1 hour time slots dependent on age.
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It hasn’t been quick but looking like the more severe lockdown's finally starting to pay off for Spain (y)

We’ll hear in a couple of hours what the big update is for here re our 43 day curfew. While we don't have the resource for extensive random testing incredibly we’ve now only got nine active patients in hospitals & only 29 people left in quarantine centres who so far haven't tested positive, so unless there’s a pile of ill people staying at home or the variant here’s doesn’t make people as ill, I’m really hoping for positive news re our confinement later today…
 
ColchesterFC said:
I don't know the answer to that question but I will be doing everything in my power to support them as soon as it is safe to do so.




Just don't tell Mrs Colch. ;)
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Do you think they might have a marketing campaign - Buy One get one free. or even two for the price of one ;););)
 
I went to our local Boots phamacy. an orderly queue outside, guy comes with a clipboard, takes names and then disappears into the shop. Emerges about 20 mins later with the meds?.

Why does it take 3 pharmacist 20 mins to pick an prescription, look it up in the tray, print a label, stick it on the meds, put it in an envelop and hand it over? Genuine question.. any pharmacist who can explain. I am not talking about some complex thing, but simple hayfever or thyroid or some other off the peg med
 
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