hovis
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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?
- Thread starter drdel
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Scientists, doctors and specialists have been telling us for over 2 months not to bother wearing gloves or masks. They gave very clear and logical reasons why they were unnecessary. Was that cobblers or not? What's changed?
clubchamp98
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My main worry was can the kids of any age carry this on pencil cases ,backpacks shoes etc.
They have no sense of SD
hovis
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unless you have open wounds or cuts on your hands gloves don't do anything that hand washing doesn't. i would argue that i probably touch my face less when I'm wearing gloves. but that's me. it's also convenient to correctly take gloves off if you can't wash your hands. like when your at the boot of your car
GB72
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Going to use a strange analogy but gloves and masks are like when pads were introduced to rugby. Rather than lessen injuries, players thought they were bullet proof, took more risks and were injured more. People I have seen in gloves and masks walk round like they are immune and that is dangerous. They do not seem to get that the mask protects other people more than the wearer.
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I wear them as a reminder not to touch my face and also as a remote possibility of me being a carrier and passing it on.
They are not a replacement for washing your hands or using an alcohol gel etc.
All this was started by a simple observation that 12 days ago people seemed far more conscious of taking preventitive measures by wearing gloves or a mask or both, today that was few and far between, to me, imo, it shows a possible lack in attitude towards the virus.
Obviously being the lockdown we are all bored and some of us like to play the one upmanship game.
GB72
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I will be honest though, I have bought some bits to cover my face as I sort of feel that their required use in certain circumstances will become compulsory for a while and once that happens they will be like hens teeth to find. Guessing will not be masks as compulsory but some form of scarf, wrap or similar
Old Skier
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Nothing, it was in the context of how it may help when some businesses opened up.
I have no problem if the advice has changed. I'm just trying to understand why advice which has been so consistent may now be changed. The experts don't seem to be putting their hearts into the move down this road so why do it?
I'm not making any judgement or comment about people wearing this gear now, that was not the point of my question.
I wasn't replying to your post incidentally, it's a genuine query ?
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I know mate.
Diamond
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I need new trousers (2 sizes up) and a good hair cut. Also very concerned for the oldest profession in the world, how will those girls cope post lockdown. 
Honestly, with an infection quotient of R=3 when society was moving around normally I genuinely don't know of a logical reason why the advice was not to wear PPE. I have a cynical reason, which without proof is unfair, and that is if the general public were buying it there would be even less for the NHS.
And as an observation, if the NHS staff in the critical areas were crying out for it there was obviously a need for it. And if they were worried enough to build Nightingale's to cope with the numbers infected there's a need for it.
Beyond that its up to each of us to draw our own conclusions.
I get the impression the suggestion regarding face masks is about giving the wearer the confidence to venture out, as much as anything else.
What I’m interested to know is where we’re likely to be able to source them from. Can they be manufactured from stockpiled loo roll, because you can bet your life they will be as hard to find?
What I’m interested to know is where we’re likely to be able to source them from. Can they be manufactured from stockpiled loo roll, because you can bet your life they will be as hard to find?
ColchesterFC
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I need new trousers (2 sizes up) and a good hair cut. Also very concerned for the oldest profession in the world, how will those girls cope post lockdown.
I don't know the answer to that question but I will be doing everything in my power to support them as soon as it is safe to do so.
Just don't tell Mrs Colch.
larmen
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And hard to get once manufactured. Maybe they have to send every household a pack based on council registrations.
ColchesterFC
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It depends on what type of face masks you mean. If we're talking about the FFP3 (?) ones that are recommended for frontline staff dealing with the virus then I would hope that they would be extremely difficult for the general public to get hold of. If we're talking about homemade masks/non medical quality ones that do more to protect others than yourself then these should be very easy to source.
I don't think they are asking people to wear surgical masks. It could be any old scarf or covering. People may be digging out their old Palestinian scarves from university days ?.
Backache
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I think the advice has changed as a result of a bit more understanding about the virus and thoughts about the purpose of facemasks.
The recommendation that facemasks gave little protection was largely based on the fact that people take them off and fiddle and will be transferring things on it back to themselves anyway. I don't think this has changed much as an idea.
What has changed a bit is the thought of how wearing a facemask can protect others from the wearer.
It is now thought that a fair bit of the transmission may come before people get symptoms. If people are wearing masks they are less likely to project respiratory droplets to others as they will be trapped by the mask.
ie The mask is to protect others not the wearer.
User20204
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Where is this being asked to be done ?
I know the FM in Scotland has made reference to the use of face covering indoors in shops etc