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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Hobbit said:
Finally, more daily recoveries than new infections in Spain. Also, 367 deaths. Twice in the last week there's been less than 400 declared. A week ago the average was over 500, and a week before that the average was over 600. This week looks like the average will be comfortably in the 400's.

The new lockdown has been announced, another 2 weeks but with one restriction lifted. Children under 14 are allowed out to play but not with anyone who isn't from their house. Also, a carrot has been dangled. More restrictions to be lifted in 2 weeks time providing the numbers continue to improve. Several of the regional presidents are arguing for tourism to be opened up by late July.
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Good to read. The time it has taken (and is taking) to come down in Spain & Italy is info we should take note of in the UK.

Anything behind the number of new cases though?
 
IainP said:
Good to read. The time it has taken (and is taking) to come down in Spain & Italy is info we should take note of in the UK.

Anything behind the number of new cases though?
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There was a comment made today about the different rates of infection in different areas allied to the number of fines or lack of in those areas. The 3 lowest areas of infection/1,000 citizens are in SE and SW Spain. All 3 areas are considered to be the most compliant with the lockdown rules. Almeria region (SE Spain) has had 2 deaths in the last 7 days.

Going in the right direction but still a long way to go.
 
BrianM said:
Mindless idiots Patrick.
Seen there was golfers playing the Kings earlier on in the week, they have been reported to police.
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That's just the Courier making up a Story.

a couple of guys were spotted playing last weekend, an email came round from the club asking if anyone see's them again while walking to call the Police, nothing was done at the time. i don't think they were members anyway

Mind you, been reg members using the practice ground, i've seen them a few times and my mate Gordy has too, he knows them by name, club were not that interested when he reported it:(
 
Hobbit said:
Finally, more daily recoveries than new infections in Spain. Also, 367 deaths. Twice in the last week there's been less than 400 declared. A week ago the average was over 500, and a week before that the average was over 600. This week looks like the average will be comfortably in the 400's.

The new lockdown has been announced, another 2 weeks but with one restriction lifted. Children under 14 are allowed out to play but not with anyone who isn't from their house. Also, a carrot has been dangled. More restrictions to be lifted in 2 weeks time providing the numbers continue to improve. Several of the regional presidents are arguing for tourism to be opened up by late July.
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IainP said:
Good to read. The time it has taken (and is taking) to come down in Spain & Italy is info we should take note of in the UK.

Anything behind the number of new cases though?
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  • I think the reality is that in both Spain and here in Italy - the flattening of the curve and the plateau is longer than was hoped for
  • So while in both countries it is going in the right direction - it is all a bit more prolonged
  • Like Spain - reopening carrots have been issued i Italy now - some staggered broader social opening on May 4th and 11th
  • I think both countries know they must be cautious - as they can't put lockdown back in play too quickly either - start-stop-start-stop is far worse for the economy
  • Also I reckon they may also see what macron says RE France - effectively they are now similar to Spain & Italy in general disease burden demographics
  • A long haul
  • Though it seems like we may have golf sometime in later May
  • All you guys with too many un-wanted new golf balls - PM me and my Nigerian caddy will be in touch :)
 
Hobbit said:
Finally, more daily recoveries than new infections in Spain. Also, 367 deaths. Twice in the last week there's been less than 400 declared. A week ago the average was over 500, and a week before that the average was over 600. This week looks like the average will be comfortably in the 400's.
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Ok, a bit cynical, but - if there is an area that has high level of covid then surely as the vunerable die the numbers will go down?
 
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/new-york-virus-deaths-top-15k-cuomo-expected-to-detail-plan-to-fight-nursing-home-outbreaks/2386556/

Another set of antibody tests, showing quite a wide spread infection already potentially. All the ones I have seen from various countries, tend to indicate 10-20% of infection, on fairly low numbers of antibody tests undertaken but still an indicator.

Surprising.


Also still cant not get my head around how Sweden hospitalizations are dropping. Begs the question if a lockdown is not massively more effective than other measures(such as just work from home & social distancing). That goes against my gut reaction to say tho but still Sweden just doesn't quite fit. Yes more deaths than other Nordic countries but has the virus spread further, so further along the 'journey' as such, so you would expect more deaths. And so many other unanswerable questions with Sweden and a few more countries like Italy and Spain(still very many new cases are still being registered after all these weeks of fairly strict lockdowns). Of to ponder some more :unsure:
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I think I'm going to stop watching the news. they are now reporting that trump said he recommended injecting bleach. he actually said disinfectant but hey, bleach sounds better right!!!
what he actually said was "disinfectant kills this disease within one minute. is there something we could do with that? can we inject something like that? “ he was asking the question to a doctor not telling Americans to inject bleach.

they really do just say what they want.
 
hovis said:
I think I'm going to stop watching the news. they are now reporting that trump said he recommended injecting bleach. he actually said disinfectant but hey, bleach sounds better right!!!
what he actually said was "disinfectant kills this disease within one minute. is there something we could do with that? can we inject something like that? “ he was asking the question to a doctor not telling Americans to inject bleach.

they really do just say what they want.
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Despite warnings from disinfectant and bleach manufacturers if one person does this and dies.........America will do nothing.
 
hovis said:
I think I'm going to stop watching the news. they are now reporting that trump said he recommended injecting bleach. he actually said disinfectant but hey, bleach sounds better right!!!
what he actually said was "disinfectant kills this disease within one minute. is there something we could do with that? can we inject something like that? “ he was asking the question to a doctor not telling Americans to inject bleach.

they really do just say what they want.
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This pandemic has finally cemented my view of journalists.
They have no intention about helping, it's all about their careers.
The first attribute for a journalist seems to be." I know what (s)he said, but what did (s he ) really mean".
And they speculate from there.
 
hovis said:
I think I'm going to stop watching the news. they are now reporting that trump said he recommended injecting bleach. he actually said disinfectant but hey, bleach sounds better right!!!
what he actually said was "disinfectant kills this disease within one minute. is there something we could do with that? can we inject something like that? “ he was asking the question to a doctor not telling Americans to inject bleach.

they really do just say what they want.
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Did you spot that Trump talked about disinfectant at the same time he was talking about UV light - and on the latter he was asking the scientist who had raised UV and disinfectant...

“So supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light and I think you said that hasn’t been checked but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you’re going to test that too?”

Then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute. Is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside? Or almost a cleaning, ‘cause you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs.

Now remember that part of the audience who will do whatever Trump suggests, and then consider that Trump was talking about UV and disinfectant together as possible 'treatments' (with the most commonly used disinfectant most have to hand perhaps being bleach), and the disinfectant for cleaning the lungs...and you might draw an implied conclusion.
 
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SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Did you spot that Trump talked about disinfectant at the same time he was talking about UV light - and on the latter he was asking the scientist who had raised UV and disinfectant...

“So supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light and I think you said that hasn’t been checked but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you’re going to test that too?”

Then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute. Is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside? Or almost a cleaning, ‘cause you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs.

Now remember that part of the audience who will do whatever Trump suggests, and then consider that Trump was talking about UV and disinfectant together as possible 'treatments' (with the most commonly used disinfectant most have to hand perhaps being bleach), and the disinfectant for cleaning the lungs...and you might draw an implied conclusion.
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Clean around the bend!
 
hovis said:
I think I'm going to stop watching the news. they are now reporting that trump said he recommended injecting bleach. he actually said disinfectant but hey, bleach sounds better right!!!
what he actually said was "disinfectant kills this disease within one minute. is there something we could do with that? can we inject something like that? “ he was asking the question to a doctor not telling Americans to inject bleach.

they really do just say what they want.
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I didn't see that but this morning for the first time I can remember - I didn't watch the news. On the 10pm news last night we had Laura K...berg sucking up to the Scottish First Minister and completing her question with "are Westminster treating their public like children". When the TV went on this morning I heard Naga interviewing Hancock so turned to ITV which was talking about Doctors suing the NHS and that was enough. From today I'll watch the evening briefing and then my usual diet of morning, early evening and 10pm news will be off the menu for the forseeable.
 
HappyHacker1 said:
What about the question she got from a Record reporter, in regarding Christmas, she did very well to remain calm in light of that question, utterly absurd question.
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You sense she is just going to let rip at one of those stupid so called journalists questions.
She gave 'the eyes' to one today but somebody is going to get both barrels soon.:love:
She has been an absolute star through this crisis, head and shoulders above the rest except probably the UK Chancellor.
 
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