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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

I spent my last 10 years working with adults with learning difficulties one girl left to work in a private nursing home.
I met her later she said it was awful rubber gloves were rationed to 3 pair a shift, she said it was clearly run to maximise profit.
My mother in law went into a private care home, family visited it seemed ok but unfortunately that was not the case
My wife was taking her washing home and cleaning her room and bathroom, luckily we only lived a short distance away and my wife visited her mum daily, it is one of her regrets that she let her mum go into the home,just a pity we never had a spare room.
It's no surprise to me care homes are being hit hard.
Nor do I blame the workers they are cut to the bare minimum.
Care homes should not be run for profit.
 
fundy said:
yeah no one ever goes tit for tat on here on any other subject do they lol, why you think this will be any different. or even better, why is it ok to do so on other subjects but not this?
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Because it’s a choice, you decide, no one else if you wish to answer a post or not

Stating we won’t post if you don’t is child like, if you don’t want to answer someone then skip it or put them on ignore.

I have no issue with SILH’s religious views and see no reason for him to stop posting them because others do.

The posters I dislike I put on ignore.
 
ferenezejohn said:
I spent my last 10 years working with adults with learning difficulties one girl left to work in a private nursing home.
I met her later she said it was awful rubber gloves were rationed to 3 pair a shift, she said it was clearly run to maximise profit.
My mother in law went into a private care home, family visited it seemed ok but unfortunately that was not the case
My wife was taking her washing home and cleaning her room and bathroom, luckily we only lived a short distance away and my wife visited her mum daily, it is one of her regrets that she let her mum go into the home,just a pity we never had a spare room.
It's no surprise to me care homes are being hit hard.
Nor do I blame the workers they are cut to the bare minimum.
Care homes should not be run for profit.
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Genuine question John, re-wearing gloves, would it be acceptable to thoroughly wash your hands while wearing them, instead of changing them ?
 
williamalex1 said:
Genuine question John, re-wearing gloves, would it be acceptable to thoroughly wash your hands while wearing them, instead of changing them ?
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They are disposable gloves, that are worn to protect the wearer, I suppose washing them would be better than nothing.
I worked for a non profit making company gloves at the time were plentiful so never had to deal with the situation you mention.
 
ferenezejohn said:
They are disposable gloves, that are worn to protect the wearer, I suppose washing them would be better than nothing.
I worked for a non profit making company gloves at the time were plentiful so never had to deal with the situation you mention.
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Ah ! I was thinking more the blue surgical type gloves, that some car mechanics use.
 
murphthemog said:
One thing I have noticed on my walks. The increase in litter. Coke cans, crisp packets, beer bottles, etc. More people are going out walking, and they are littering everywhere they go.

Sad.
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I have noticed increased litter also. As a dog Walker that picks up my dogs excrement and then disposes of the bag at home, I’ve also noticed an increase in poo lying around and even when picked up the bag is discarded anywhere, including hanging on tree and bush branches.
I can only assume it is because the owners that get a dog walker to exercise their dog normally are having to do it themselves.
 
woofers said:
The pilot that landed the aircraft in the Hudson River was criticised after the event when the 'experts data' showed that he could have returned the aircraft to an airport within albeit fine margins. It was only when the 'experts' in the aftermath inquiry / investigation mocked up the situation in a simulator was it revealed that making decisions in real time is a whole lot different to carrying out perfected analysis routines. None of the pilots in the simulated real time scenario could get the aircraft back to an airport. The pilot, Chesley Sullenberger saved many lives, but there were people out there, 'experts' after the event, calling for his head.
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Apologies for the slight off track & post clipping, but if anyone wants to kill a couple of hours whilst they're off the film is worth a watch.
 
The ONS death reporting is not verified and there is a belief that many reported as virus related may well have been due to 'other' factors and varying date ranges thus corrupting and frustrating the prediction accuracy of any time based analysis. At every daily press brief this qualifier has been stated so there has not been any attempt the 'bury' these despite the media's desire for a conspiracy.
 
I believe I've read, and I stand to be corrected, that the UK has made Covid 19 a notifiable disease, meaning in effect that everyone who tests positive for the virus goes down as a Covid 19 death, regardless of other circumstances. Germany I understand considers whether the pre-existing conditions, if any, are the more likely cause of death & if so does not attribute the death to Covid 19. If correct, that would go some way to explaining the disparity in deaths due to the virus.
 
pauldj42 said:
Because it’s a choice, you decide, no one else if you wish to answer a post or not

Stating we won’t post if you don’t is child like, if you don’t want to answer someone then skip it or put them on ignore.

I have no issue with SILH’s religious views and see no reason for him to stop posting them because others do.

The posters I dislike I put on ignore.
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You have misreported me there. I have no issue with SILH, or anyone else, having a view about anything. I agree with Voltaire on that.
My issue is that when SILH posts about his religious beliefs, anyone coming back to that ,and disagreeing with him ,is attacked- the view isn't attacked, it's the making of the view which is attacked.
There should be a level playing field:there should be a right of reply, not to say he shouldn't hold such beliefs, (I am not saying that at all), but I and others should be able to put a opposite point of view, or support it, or whatever
Now if that debate or issue is felt too contentious to discuss, then fair enough.
(That's a decision for the Mods.)
Let's not discuss it and that should, in the name of even handedness, mean not raising the subject either..
 
Blue in Munich said:
I believe I've read, and I stand to be corrected, that the UK has made Covid 19 a notifiable disease, meaning in effect that everyone who tests positive for the virus goes down as a Covid 19 death, regardless of other circumstances. Germany I understand considers whether the pre-existing conditions, if any, are the more likely cause of death & if so does not attribute the death to Covid 19. If correct, that would go some way to explaining the disparity in deaths due to the virus.
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That appears to fuel our figures, certainly. But I thought it was a WHO directive, so should every country not adopt the same approach?

There is a world of difference between dying WITH Covid19 and dying BECAUSE of it. At the moment all are included in the UK figures.
 
Billysboots said:
That appears to fuel our figures, certainly. But I thought it was a WHO directive, so should every country not adopt the same approach?

There is a world of difference between dying WITH Covid19 and dying BECAUSE of it. At the moment all are included in the UK figures.
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If it is a WHO directive I haven't seen it in anything I've read, thought it was just a Government directive, but I could be wrong.

Couldn't agree more with your second point and I think the German system as I understand it acknowledges that, ours potentially doesn't.
 
Swinglowandslow said:
You have misreported me there. I have no issue with SILH, or anyone else, having a view about anything. I agree with Voltaire on that.
My issue is that when SILH posts about his religious beliefs, anyone coming back to that ,and disagreeing with him ,is attacked- the view isn't attacked, it's the making of the view which is attacked.
There should be a level playing field:there should be a right of reply, not to say he shouldn't hold such beliefs, (I am not saying that at all), but I and others should be able to put a opposite point of view, or support it, or whatever
Now if that debate or issue is felt too contentious to discuss, then fair enough.
(That's a decision for the Mods.)
Let's not discuss it and that should, in the name of even handedness, mean not raising the subject either..
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As I replied on that thread, Maxifli posed the question respectfully and over a beer I'd more than happily debate but not in here. I'm not sensitive about it, I just don't like some of the vitriolic name calling around religious beliefs. We all have an opinion on it, and we should be free to express that opinion free from fear about what might come back at us. When you attack someone's opinion on something, fair game if its done the right way. But when you attack someone's fundamental beliefs you're attacking them to the core.

If someone believes I'm deluded or mentally weak for believing in "sky fairies," that's their choice. And don't think ill of them for having those beliefs. But when its posted up on an open forum in a derisory, belittling way... why would I want to put my head up above the parapet for that? And its not easy to explain a fundamental, core belief in 30 words or less.

Some on here post up, questioning aspects of God's existence and why does or doesn't he... in truth, they're not really interested in the answer, only the next opportunity to make the next point. And some just go straight to the "deluded, sky fairy" insult. Others genuinely want to know why people believe but they are also drowned out... shame really but that's the way it is. Its a subject which, sadly, is best left alone.
 
MegaSteve said:
As you say... Not good reading at all...

Can't be many that aren't aware of a death down to covid... I've lost two of my extended family members... And, I doubt if I am alone in that regard...
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It's fairly complex (I think) Someone may have a serious condition that has the potential to kill them, that person then gets flu like symptoms and dies. Would they be tested for Covid, did they have Covid, did the serious condition kill them, maybe it was tipped over the edge by covid, would they have died anyway?
 
Swinglowandslow said:
You have misreported me there. I have no issue with SILH, or anyone else, having a view about anything. I agree with Voltaire on that.
My issue is that when SILH posts about his religious beliefs, anyone coming back to that ,and disagreeing with him ,is attacked- the view isn't attacked, it's the making of the view which is attacked.
There should be a level playing field:there should be a right of reply, not to say he shouldn't hold such beliefs, (I am not saying that at all), but I and others should be able to put a opposite point of view, or support it, or whatever
Now if that debate or issue is felt too contentious to discuss, then fair enough.
(That's a decision for the Mods.)
Let's not discuss it and that should, in the name of even handedness, mean not raising the subject either..
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Maybe you need to read the post I replied to as you stated “I'll keep my religious beliefs off this forum, if SILH does likewise” is that not directly aimed at him?

Tbf, I have never seen SILH attack anyone about their views, yes he will defend his, but attack someone else, sorry, never seen it.

Let’s be honest, SILH and his religious views/faith/beliefs etc rub some people up the wrong way, no different to some of my views do or others do to me, the difference is none of us are forced to respond or even see them.

We all slip up, but we certainly shouldn’t be advocating certain posters refrain from airing their views because some of us don’t like them, any points of view that are distasteful or crude or disgusting can always be reported for mods to deal with.
 
SocketRocket said:
It's fairly complex (I think) Someone may have a serious condition that has the potential to kill them, that person then gets flu like symptoms and does. Would they be tested for Covid, did they have Covid, did the serious condition kill them, maybe it was tipped over the edge by covid, would they have died anyway?
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If someone had, say, lung cancer, and only had a few days to live but was killed by a bus... lung caner or the bus? Does most people die of old age, bearing in mind age gets us all eventually, or heart attack/stroke/Covid?
 
Ross61 said:
I have noticed increased litter also. As a dog Walker that picks up my dogs excrement and then disposes of the bag at home, I’ve also noticed an increase in poo lying around and even when picked up the bag is discarded anywhere, including hanging on tree and bush branches.
I can only assume it is because the owners that get a dog walker to exercise their dog normally are having to do it themselves.
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Two reasons
Not enough bins
And too many dog owners denying its them
 
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