Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

[Hobbit]

Yup that's true. Lower is not zero and 13 in a group indoors in a normal sized house for a few hours isn't wise in my opinion.

You’re right, lower isn’t zero. But is this about absolutes? There’s Covid in the village… should I go shopping? Tonight I’ll be in a restaurant, having showed proof of vaccination to get in. Someone, even though vaccinated, might be a carrier. My risk assessment is catching it is highly unlikely, and if I do catch it I’m triple jabbed and shouldn’t become seriously ill.

Short version, I’ll risk assess my activities and, were reasonable, get on with living.

 

[road2ruin]

He's not triple jabbed.
And while I agree his chances of ending up in hospital are extremely remote, that may not apply to the many unvaccinated people he may unwittingly infect.

So we’re now adding the unvaccinated to the list of people we’re now protecting? If you’ve made the decision not to get vaccinated any future implications of that are solely down to you and not to a vaccinated person who might have given it to you.

 

[Leftitshort]

You’re right, lower isn’t zero. But is this about absolutes? There’s Covid in the village… should I go shopping? Tonight I’ll be in a restaurant, having showed proof of vaccination to get in. Someone, even though vaccinated, might be a carrier. My risk assessment is catching it is highly unlikely, and if I do catch it I’m triple jabbed and shouldn’t become seriously ill.

Short version, I’ll risk assess my activities and, were reasonable, get on with living.

There is no perspective on risk anymore.

 

[bobmac]

So we’re now adding the unvaccinated to the list of people we’re now protecting? If you’ve made the decision not to get vaccinated any future implications of that are solely down to you and not to a vaccinated person who might have given it to you.

Not all people can get vaccinated.
You may have missed the rest of my post....
'' the more infections there are, the more chances of new variants appearing which may be more resistant to the vaccines.''

 

[D-S]

But if he is double jabbed, has just had it and is testing negative, then how can he be a risk/threat?

Also to the point that 'not all people can be vaccinated', surely if you are unfortunate enough not to be able to be vaccinated for medical reasons, the last place you should be is out partying - so if they (those not able to be vaccinated solely for medical reasons) aren't there, how can he infect them?

 

[hovis]

Not all people can get vaccinated.
You may have missed the rest of my post....
'' the more infections there are, the more chances of new variants appearing which may be more resistant to the vaccines.''

Genuine question but why can't all people get vaccinations? Medical reasons I guess? Even so, If you can't have the vacine that's unlucky for you and you should stay away from the crowd. As for mutations, covid is here for a loooooong time. At some point you have to let go. When is up to you and your personal assessment.

 

[Ethan]

So we’re now adding the unvaccinated to the list of people we’re now protecting? If you’ve made the decision not to get vaccinated any future implications of that are solely down to you and not to a vaccinated person who might have given it to you.

Well, the unvaccinated still block hospital beds that many of you complain should be used to care for non-Covid patients, but more likely they transmit the infection to others more readily than vaccinated people do, so as responsible as you think you may be, you may still be part of a chain of transmission that causes a major outbreak. They may be the accelerant, but you could still be the spark.

The reason they are unvaccinated is a secondary issue, almost certainly no medical reason for it, but that doesn't make a difference when it comes to spreading it. The virus transmitted by an irresponsible sociopath is the same as the virus spread by someone with allergies to all the vaccines.

 

[road2ruin]

Well, the unvaccinated still block hospital beds that many of you complain should be used to care for non-Covid patients, but more likely they transmit the infection to others more readily than vaccinated people do, so as responsible as you think you may be, you may still be part of a chain of transmission that causes a major outbreak. They may be the accelerant, but you could still be the spark.

But those who are unvaccinated now have made that decision and are unlikely to come down in huge numbers so that will always be the case.

 

[Ethan]

But those who are unvaccinated now have made that decision and are unlikely to come down in huge numbers so that will always be the case.

But the more people who cram into the pub with them tonight, the more likely it is to kick off a superspreader event across unvaccinated, vaccinated with waning immunity, vaccinated with other immune conditions, people who think they have been responsible, people who don't give a toss etc. The virus doesn't care, it'll happily jump around between people. It is a numbers and proximity issue. Lots of people close together means more cases. Simple as that.

 

[hovis]

Children?

I don't see many children in a night club.

 

[hovis]

Just answering your question. Not sure where the night clubs reference comes from. Nor why it would affect the answer...

We was discussing the apparent irresponsible person going out and partying because he's been double jabbed and just recovered from Covid. That's where the reference come from

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Our lad has gone down with it couple of +ve LFTs pending doing a PCR test. He has sounded really rubbish over last couple of days, and given the nature of his work, though disappointed he’s not really that surprised (and has not had his booster though it’s booked).

Hopefully he’ll be OK and fit and clear again soon, as no work, no income…but we are thinking maybe not a bad thing for him as he’s been working his socks off last three months - all hours of night and day, and all over the country - so he needs a rest. In any case there’s an evens chance he’ll have an enforced longer break in January with risk of further restrictions shutting down all his work. Hopefully that won’t happen, so the break over new year and first week of 2022 will do him the world of good.

 

[PNWokingham]

Maybe they were praised in the media you read.

indeed they were. So what should have been the appropriate strategy over the past month?

 

[ColchesterFC]

Our lad has gone down with it couple of +ve LFTs pending doing a PCR test. He has sounded really rubbish over last couple of days, and given the nature of his work, though disappointed he’s not really that surprised (and has not had his booster though it’s booked).

Make sure he changes his booking if it's due soon. He shouldn't have the booster for 4 weeks after his positive test.

 

[RichA]

Having elderly and vulnerable family and friends, I've trusted the science and exercised caution from day 1 and I'll continue to abide by the law and follow the guidelines.
I feel like the government and the majority of the people realise that it can't be binary anymore - ALL OPEN / ALL CLOSED.
Our European neighbours with the most similar societal make up to ours often had longer, stricter lockdowns. None are fairing much better now. Some are in a worse position.
Maybe it's about balance and flexibility as we head into the 3rd year of COVID.

 

[Jamesbrown]

A bit more caution. Face masks, distancing, vaccination passes, when we completely unlocked this year it was reckless imo.

Facemasks - meh, whatever floats your boat.
Vax passes - pretty pointless, lateral flow result passes more important but those easily forged or obtained so needs an overhaul.
Distancing - absolute number one but never appears at the top of anyones list when asked this question.

 

[PNWokingham]

They may have been described as lockdowns, but there was plenty of activity during them. I worked as before through all of them, though the workplace setup changed.

So it wasn't a lockdown as far as I was concerned, just a bunch of (mainly sensible) restrictions.

I believe that's what Ethan meant by the text you highlighted.

A good job a few people worked. Do you think there is or was an alternative?!

 

[Foxholer]

A good job a few people worked. Do you think there is or was an alternative?!

There's ALWAYS an alternative!

 

[Ethan]

Did you sleep through the first lockdown that started on the 23rd March 2020 and then ended in May ?

What about the one in November. 2020

Or the third one at the start of 2021 ?

Did you ignore those ?

I was here for all of those. Those weren't lock downs. Those were short term modest restrictions.

 

[Fade and Die]

Ffs war footing …?

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