Considering the current 2m social distancing, how many players to a Tee when we restart?

[2blue]

We may not have a choice in the matter but I'm just wondering what the maximum number of playing partners you'd feel safe sharing the tee with.
Not including family members.
It would be as a first start & may be changed after a few weeks or so.

 

[Imurg]

Absolutely no reason why 4 people can't keep 2 metres apart in a wide open field for 3 to 4 hours
It's really not difficult
But it will be 2 balls, as I think we all really know.
Although I know a certain club that resides next to a caged animal park somewhere in the depths of the Bedfordshire/Hertfordshire/Buckinghamshire borders is planning on letting 3 balls out....

 

[GB72]

Absolutely no reason why 4 people can't keep 2 metres apart in a wide open field for 3 to 4 hours
It's really not difficult
But it will be 2 balls, as I think we all really know.
Although I know a certain club that resides next to a caged animal park somewhere in the depths of the Bedfordshire/Hertfordshire/Buckinghamshire borders is planning on letting 3 balls out....

i am starting to see part of the use of 2 balls only as a piece of the bigger picture, as I mentioned in my bored, conspiracy theory post. By allowing golf to go ahead, what you are doing is allowing separate households to socialise whilst applying social distancing. If you limit it to 2 balls, you are only allowing a meeting of 2 households and it is not inconceivable that any relaxation that involves golf may also allow outside meetings of 2 households whilst applying social distancing. If you allow 4 balls, you may have up to 4 households meeting in a social environment. It would seem a step too far to be allowing in general life an outside meeting of 4 households. So, if you apply the rules that may be applied to life in general then the idea of a 2 ball makes more sense.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Why no option for 4 balls? As Ian says, it isn't difficult to stay apart!

I've heard rumours of 2 balls every 10 minutes. That's 12 people on the course per hour, we have 550 playing members......

 

[GB72]

Why no option for 4 balls? As Ian says, it isn't difficult to stay apart!

Because the question is how many playing partners you would be happy on the tee with so 3 playing partners plus you makes a 4 ball

 

[2blue]

Why no option for 4 balls? As Ian says, it isn't difficult to stay apart!

'cos it's the maximum number of playing partners you'd feel safe sharing the tee with. Yes I guess that varies a little for the title
EDIT.... beat me to it!!

Because the question is how many playing partners you would be happy on the tee with so 3 playing partners plus you makes a 4 ball

 

[North Mimms]

i am starting to see part of the use of 2 balls only as a piece of the bigger picture, as I mentioned in my bored, conspiracy theory post. By allowing golf to go ahead, what you are doing is allowing separate households to socialise whilst applying social distancing. If you limit it to 2 balls, you are only allowing a meeting of 2 households and it is not inconceivable that any relaxation that involves golf may also allow outside meetings of 2 households whilst applying social distancing. If you allow 4 balls, you may have up to 4 households meeting in a social environment. It would seem a step too far to be allowing in general life an outside meeting of 4 households. So, if you apply the rules that may be applied to life in general then the idea of a 2 ball makes more sense.

I like your analysis!

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Because the question is how many playing partners you would be happy on the tee with so 3 playing partners plus you makes a 4 ball

how many players to a Tee when we restart?
Sorry that's not how I read it. And I'm not shouting at you, I just cut and pasted the thread title

 

[North Mimms]

Mr Mimms and I share a household but tend to socially distance anyway when playing golf, with his straight hook, and my slice

 

[i*windows]

when we restart on Monday (Germany) it will be two balls only, with 10 mins between tee times.

 

[GB72]

how many players to a Tee when we restart?
Sorry that's not how I read it. And I'm not shouting at you, I just cut and pasted the thread title

Then above the vote:


With how many playing partners would you feel safe to share the tee?

Again not shouting They do seem to contradict a little.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

when we restart on Monday (Germany) it will be two balls only, with 10 mins between tee times.

Do you have to book times or just queue up? If booked times, has the booking system gone live yet? Curious to know how busy it was or likely to be.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Then above the vote:


With how many playing partners would you feel safe to share the tee?

Again not shouting They do seem to contradict a little.

STOP SHOUTING AT ME

 

[2blue]

i am starting to see part of the use of 2 balls only as a piece of the bigger picture, as I mentioned in my bored, conspiracy theory post. By allowing golf to go ahead, what you are doing is allowing separate households to socialise whilst applying social distancing. If you limit it to 2 balls, you are only allowing a meeting of 2 households and it is not inconceivable that any relaxation that involves golf may also allow outside meetings of 2 households whilst applying social distancing. If you allow 4 balls, you may have up to 4 households meeting in a social environment. It would seem a step too far to be allowing in general life an outside meeting of 4 households. So, if you apply the rules that may be applied to life in general then the idea of a 2 ball makes more sense.

I agree.
On a calm day at our place I'd be just about happy with the 2m but we ain't called Windy-Wike for nothing. If you've ever played in the company of folk who smoke or Vapp then you'll be aware that you can sample their exhales from 5m or 6m distance. So there's very little chance of 3 or 4 of you being able to stay on the weather-side or more appropriately, a safe distance away of each other, on the Tee..... it just can't be done!
Which is why I doubt we'll have the choice.

 

[2blue]

how many players to a Tee when we restart?
Sorry that's not how I read it. And I'm not shouting at you, I just cut and pasted the thread title

Sorry, when I realized it was too late to change it.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

I agree.
On a calm day at our place I'd be just about happy with the 2m but we ain't called Windy-Wike for nothing. If you've ever played in the company of folk who smoke or Vapp then you'll be aware that you can sample their exhales from 5m or 6m distance. So there's very little chance of 3 or 4 of you being able to stay on the weather-side or more appropriately, a safe distance away of each other, on the Tee..... it just can't be done!
Which is why I doubt we'll have the choice.

Is that the same though? I thought the issue was when people start coughing or sneezing, then the virus travels further. Normal breathing shouldn't spread the virus as far as I'm aware if people maintain 2m distancing?

 

[Deleted member 21258]

Is that the same though? I thought the issue was when people start coughing or sneezing, then the virus travels further. Normal breathing shouldn't spread the virus as far as I'm aware.

A number of cases like this one(showing aerosol transmissions certainly inside):-

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-03-29/coronavirus-choir-outbreak

Aerosol (or in the air) transmission is more than likey, also shown to be in the case in a lab test and also in areas were patients with virus have been is shown, that it is still in the air and all over stuff.

Take from that what you wish to and how far you wish to believe it can travel in open air, upto you.

That said I would be happy to share the tee with 3 more people, provided they think like I do. If they don't think like I do, then none...

 

[2blue]

Is that the same though? I thought the issue was when people start coughing or sneezing, then the virus travels further. Normal breathing shouldn't spread the virus as far as I'm aware if people maintain 2m distancing?

How far when they start swearing, 'cos I think there'll be a lot of that!
Sorry I messed up the question really

 

[Grant85]

I'd feel safe playing a 4 ball, but I don't feel at risk.
I think you can stay a safe distance.

However I am fairly certain it will be singles or 2 balls when things re-start. Most likely 2 ball.
Which will be a nightmare for a lot of clubs. Especially those that don't have the 10th tee near the clubhouse.

The whole thing is getting tedius, treating everyone the same rather than letting the evidence guide what can and can't happen.

 

[Grant85]

i am starting to see part of the use of 2 balls only as a piece of the bigger picture, as I mentioned in my bored, conspiracy theory post. By allowing golf to go ahead, what you are doing is allowing separate households to socialise whilst applying social distancing. If you limit it to 2 balls, you are only allowing a meeting of 2 households and it is not inconceivable that any relaxation that involves golf may also allow outside meetings of 2 households whilst applying social distancing. If you allow 4 balls, you may have up to 4 households meeting in a social environment. It would seem a step too far to be allowing in general life an outside meeting of 4 households. So, if you apply the rules that may be applied to life in general then the idea of a 2 ball makes more sense.

That's a fair point, but if they do take the view that socially distanced golf is safe, then it's safe. 2, 3 or 4 people is going to make v little difference or they won't allow it at all.

Trying to 'reduce the risk' becomes an optics game in that you don't want to let these pursuits get going if people see it as 'business as usual'.

However it would be much safer to have 'business as usual' with no one over age 60 allowed to play in groups (other than from their own household).

But it seems the government are unwilling or unable to point out just how much more serious it is for elderly people to contract the virus compared to younger people.