Confused

[Mike_j_golf]

Hi,
This is a bit of a follow on from the i'm a chiping whimp thread. I have been reading Pelz short game bible some good stuff in it but also a lot of fill and maybe too technical was also given Mickelsons short game secerets which is the total opposite approach now maybe i'm but as far as I knew Pelz is his coach, one of the first things Phil says in his chiping section is that the clock method should not be taught for chipping and pitching but they are the basis for everything in Pelz's book. I know Phil dose things his own way but the methods your coach preaches about in his book are the opposite to the ones in his book. Anyone else read both books?
Mike

 

[StrangelyBrown]

I'm reading Peltz's short game book at the moment and I'm enjoying it. I haven't read Phil's book so can't really comment apart from saying that you should use whichever theory has got you to single figures, it's obviously working

 

[USER1999]

I am not a fan of the clock face drill. It is too mechanical for me. I prefer to just go with feel. Part of that might be that I don't think I have the same tempo all the time, so the distance I take the club back has next to no influence on my club head speed.

I haven't read Phil Ms book, but I would guess it would make more sense to me than Peltz.

 

[Mike_j_golf]

I'm reading Peltz's short game book at the moment and I'm enjoying it. I haven't read Phil's book so can't really comment apart from saying that you should use whichever theory has got you to single figures, it's obviously working

I probaly have the worst short game of any single handicapper in the world any cut comes from rounds where i hit a lot of greens or fringes and am able to putt so looking for something different think i'm going to try phils method and see how it goes. Its just funny how Peltz is all about ball position in the same spot and phil is move it forward or back so many differences.

 

[HawkeyeMS]

I have read Pelz's book and use the principle but don't stick exactly to the clock face. I have 3 swings but they are just to positions I feel comfortable with.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I tried the clock face for so long. It worked but I found it needed so much practice to keep it going. These days I tend to go a lot more on feel almost as I did as a kid. I really wish I could go back to chipping like a 12 year old with not worry about technique or making a mistake and have that natural hand/eye co-ordination and free unihibited swing. Instead my mind is a mish mash of thoughts primarily involving don't fat or thin it

 

[birdieman]

I found the clockface drill useful but if you think too hard about the position you will hit a poor shot, you really need to do it a lot to get it ingrained.

Better ploy is to tee off or lay up to a full club yardage in.

 

[haplesshacker]

You're a better h'cap than me, so you can take it or leave it. But I'm kinda with Murph on this one.

I've tried the clockface method and really didn't get on with it at all. Far too mechanical and had no sense of rythmn. Now I just go on feel, and I swing far easier at the ball than at any other point in the game.

That doesn't mean to say that I think one method is better than another. Just what suits different folks.

 

[Region3]

Sort of clockface for me. I just have 2 though, arms to waist high or shoulder high.

Combine that with normal or open stance, and 4 wedges and I normally have a stock shot for the yardage I need.

Carrying it out is another matter.

 

[viscount17]

one pro tried to get me doing the clockface but whether it was his explanation or me it just seemed over complicated. practicing and learning the distances for three positions on every club up to 7 and remembering the flight and roll for each! too much

now I think I'm developing a feel for the short stuff at last, just focus on where I want it to land and don't worry about what's going on behind me.