conceding a putt

DCB said:
In all seriousness though, it pays to get a reasonable understanding of the rules if you play this great game regularly. Time to ask santa for a Decisions book if you don't have one already.
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Big D 88 said:
Why have a 'Rules of Golf' section of the forum if you're going to belittle anyone asking for advice on a rule?
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Bit of advice offered rather than belitteling IMO , guess its proof people can see replys in different ways eh ?

off topic i know , but honestly dont think it was meant the way you saw it ..
 
'seems bad 4 players and not one knows the rules'

that isnt advice

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Anyways i dont wanna cause an argument, i just dont see the need for this section of the forum if comments like the above are dished out.
 
Big D 88 said:
'seems bad 4 players and not one knows the rules'

that isnt advice

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Anyways i dont wanna cause an argument, i just dont see the need for this section of the forum if comments like the above are dished out.
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I agree totaly mate thats why i didnt include it in my post , i was only referring to the one i mentioned , no argument i totaly agree that unhelpful comments have no place ..
 
Big D 88 said:
'seems bad 4 players and not one knows the rules'

that isn't advice

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Anyways i don't wanna cause an argument, i just don't see the need for this section of the forum if comments like the above are dished out.
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no it was a comment referring to the fact that 4 golfers either didn't know the rules,chose to try and bend the rules or not one was carrying a rules book,it begs the question of how many other breaches of the rules had been overlooked,not known about or just ignored,i agree not everyone knows every rule but some of the basics is a must surly or at least carrying a rules book.
 
6inchcup said:
no it was a comment referring to the fact that 4 golfers either didn't know the rules,chose to try and bend the rules or not one was carrying a rules book,it begs the question of how many other breaches of the rules had been overlooked,not known about or just ignored,i agree not everyone knows every rule but some of the basics is a must surly or at least carrying a rules book.
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But the OP was asking for advice....believe it or not on a section of the forum which is called 'rules of golf'

Some people (myself included), are relatively new to golf and are still coming to terms with the 'basic' rules. So i dont personally believe its a 'must' that the basics are known. Surely its more down to getting people onboard this great sport, and learning the rules as we go along.
 
Big D 88 said:
But the OP was asking for advice....believe it or not on a section of the forum which is called 'rules of golf'

Some people (myself included), are relatively new to golf and are still coming to terms with the 'basic' rules. So i don't personally believe its a 'must' that the basics are known. Surely its more down to getting people aboard this great sport, and learning the rules as we go along.
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if as you go along includes playing in competitions then i'm sorry you should know the basic rules of the sport or how else can you play,it isn't just about hitting a ball with a stick! if 4 of you have no idea about the rules how can you make decisions that could dq you from a comp that you won,or calling a penalty that isn't,it is like knowing how to mark a card,basic knowledge that is as important than swinging the club.
 
6inchcup said:
if as you go along includes playing in competitions then i'm sorry you should know the basic rules of the sport or how else can you play,it isn't just about hitting a ball with a stick! if 4 of you have no idea about the rules how can you make decisions that could dq you from a comp that you won,or calling a penalty that isn't,it is like knowing how to mark a card,basic knowledge that is as important than swinging the club.
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Im sorry but were getting no where here so lets forget the conversation.

I was merely saying this is a forum, and this section is for rules of golf, which is what the OP was about.

For you to belittle him and his 4 ball is disrespectful, nor is it helpful
 
And so on Saturday I was dormie three down putting on 16 (and not forgetting I had a shot on 17) in Winter Singles knockout comp. On a temporary green as 16th Green currently out of play. Opponent with level 18" putt to half hole and win match - so I gave him it. No hesitation. I played pretty well (played 3 under handicap) but certainly deserved to lose match due to own carelessness around the turn. I'm guessing some would have asked their opponent to hole out - but for me you don't want to win a hole due to missed 18" putts on a temporary green.
 
And so to the 16th green on Saturday in my match in the Winter singles knockout. Dormie 3 down and my opponent has a level 18" putt for a half and the match. But we are on a temporary green as green out of play. Surface not too bad - and so without hesitating and not forgetting I had a shot on 17 - I gave him the putt and lost the match.

I guess others would have made him putt but on balance he probably deserved to win - though I was 3 under h/cap I had too much careless stuff around the turn. And I don't like winning holes by an opponent missing short putt on a temp.

Was I silly to concede?
 
Surely you never concede a putt that will lose you the match.

that said, just remembered that I shook hands on the last when my opponent had 2 for it from 6 feet.
 
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louise_a said:
Surely you never concede a putt that will lose you the match.
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You often do. May only be an inch or two - where do you draw the line? If it had been 2ft he would have been putting. Other considerations that I took into account (in no particular order)

We only has two temps - and we didn't need to putt on the first temp.
He had been putting well.
He is a 7 h/capper - just drifted up in last couple of years from 5.
He was about 4 over gross and playing well (we played out the round and I ended 9 over, inc 4 putt on 5th :angry: )

I like to think I play golf in the right spirit. I am competitive (and have won a lot in my time) but hope I can lose with grace and win with humility. In many aspects golf is a game of chance. On Saturday it was my luck (or bad luck) to find myself in the position to be able willingly and happily concede a putt and hence concede the match. If the law of averages holds I will be recipient of such a concession - maybe when it REALLY matters to me.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
I like to think I play golf in the right spirit.
I am competitive (and have won a lot in my time)
but hope I can lose with grace and win with humility.
We only has two temps - and we didn't need to putt on the first temp
He is a 7 h/capper - last couple of years from 5. just drifted up in
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might be just me man but i dont see how any of that is relevent to conceding a putt of 18" , but thats just my opinion
 
bladeplayer said:
might be just me man but i dont see how any of that is relevent to conceding a putt of 18" , but thats just my opinion
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Not saying any one thing had a major influence on my decision - however as conceding is all to do with context, and these considerations were part of the context, then they were completely relevant to one degree or another in my decision making.

Besides - it just felt the right thing to do.
 
going back to the OP, if you concede a putt but the person decides to carry on putting as its a help to his partner who is further away but putting for a win lets say, how do you ensure he doesnt putt and is there a penalty if he does? or can he ignore you and just putt away regardless?
 
DarthVega said:
going back to the OP, if you concede a putt but the person decides to carry on putting as its a help to his partner who is further away but putting for a win lets say, how do you ensure he doesnt putt and is there a penalty if he does? or can he ignore you and just putt away regardless?
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2-4/6
Putting Out After Concession of Stroke

Rule 2-4 does not cover the question of whether a player may putt out after his next stroke has been conceded. A player incurs no penalty for holing out in such circumstances. However, if the act would be of assistance to a partner in a four-ball or best-ball match, the partner is, in equity (Rule 1-4), disqualified for the hole.
 
BTatHome said:
2-4/6
Putting Out After Concession of Stroke

Rule 2-4 does not cover the question of whether a player may putt out after his next stroke has been conceded. A player incurs no penalty for holing out in such circumstances. However, if the act would be of assistance to a partner in a four-ball or best-ball match, the partner is, in equity (Rule 1-4), disqualified for the hole.
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Thanks, very useful to know :thup:
 
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