Chipping, wristy or stiff wristed?

Will probably get flamed for this but I do think it's better for those learning the game to use less wrist and use the bigger muscles like the shoulders and arms to control a chip and then work on the more fiddly stuff as skills develop. Just the way I learnt stuff FWIW...
 
spongebob59 said:
Did you ever do chipping with PP ?
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Only once and didn't take to it. The best lesson I had was a few months ago with Howard and on the computer. I played yesterday and I'd like to think my playing partners (all much lower h/c than me) would say I chipped pretty ok using his method

Battery worked great too. How's your back after Monday?
 
chrisd said:
Only once and didn't take to it. The best lesson I had was a few months ago with Howard and on the computer. I played yesterday and I'd like to think my playing partners (all much lower h/c than me) would say I chipped pretty ok using his method

Battery worked great too. How's your back after Monday?
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I still use his method although not very well , to me its was a sort of hybrid, where the left stayed flat (or didn't move/hinge) with the right folding slightly. Did he teach you the same ?

I know a single capper who uses him said he takes this on and you get more wristy depending on the type of shot you want to play and how much spin you want to use, but I'd be happy just to be able to have one consistent shot tbh.

Back OK, booked in next week to go up to full swing and hope to play over xmas.
Been a long 6 months !
 
spongebob59 said:
I still use his method although not very well , to me its was a sort of hybrid, where the left stayed flat (or didn't move/hinge) with the right folding slightly. Did he teach you the same ?

I know a single capper who uses him said he takes this on and you get more wristy depending on the type of shot you want to play and how much spin you want to use, but I'd be happy just to be able to have one consistent shot tbh.

Back OK, booked in next week to go up to full swing and hope to play over xmas.
Been a long 6 months !
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It was a fair while ago but I remember thinking that I didn't like it when he was showing me so I didn't change

Great that you got through it ok -best of luck!
 
If its chipping, then I would if possible elect for a little chip and run, and no wrists...just have to keep the hands ahead of the clubhead & ball and a little downward strike and its pops up and runs lovely. Just arms really in my mind.

If it needs to go higher, then out pops a lob wedge to slide under the ball like a bunker shot almost.

I wish I used my wrists more but this just normally gives me big timing/flicking/strike problems but something I am currently working on not to any luck at the moment!!, as would like more easy power/lag in my swing generally.
 
Chip my best with no wrist action, critical and key in making my chipping the best it has ever been.

I think there is a difference between looking wristy from an observers point as actually being that wristy.

Can be wristy and good but does not mean everyone should be.

Everyone I've helped learn to chip favours no wrist action over wristy.
 
bobmac said:
Spot on.



If you hinge from the wrist, what happens to the angle of attack and the length of the swing?
I would guess the swing gets longer and the angle of attack gets steeper which, especially on the shorter chips, leads to deceleration and the duff.
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Surely, as long as your hands are slightly ahead of the ball at impact you shouldn't duff the chip. I can understand that players who try to flick the ball into the air with their hands/wrists behind the ball will tend to hit fat or thin shots.
 
Yeah del there is a world of difference between someone who hinges on the backswing and holds that angle and someone who actively flicks at the ball.
 
Best (amatuer) player I saw chipping was one of my old playing partners and he was all arms and no wrists at all. He hit his chips so hard and they always stopped on a sixpence at the side of the flag. If I tried to do the same it resulted in thinned chips or ones that rolled for ever virtually always ending farther away than I started. Guess it's horses for courses do what ever you are best at and gives you the best result
 
I think chipping is all about "what works for you" same as in driving, putting and bunkers.
Having had me head turned inside out when researching bunker shots and reading two excellent pros giving differant sorts of advice re stance (open or square) club head (open or square ) to target.
Not to sure if wristy is right or wrong or wrong or right. What I did read a few months ago though that did strike a cord is that what ever you decide, commit to the shot and the "following through" is just as important as hitting the ball whether it's wrists or not.
 
i used to have quite a handsy/wristy chipping action, hit lots of fats and the occasional thin, i have spent a bit of time the past two seasons trying to quieten the action and have seen considerable improvements, up n down stats have gone from just over 20% to around the 50%mark. my GIR stats are just under 50% so i'm saving about 2 or 3 shots per round, well worth the work i put in.
 
simwood2 said:
Best (amatuer) player I saw chipping was one of my old playing partners and he was all arms and no wrists at all.
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This is very much me.

I set the hands ahead at address but without too much shaft lean (feet close together). Been taught the same method across 4 Pros over the years. I did dabble with my own take on it but I always reverted back to the method I have now.

I think I am chipping better because I finally got it... Having had it and lost it about 6 times!

My outrageous chip in at Centurion Club validated it for me this year :D (plus all the up and downs I got at the par 3 course, often didn't need to hit a green to make par!).

I got VERY confident about getting up and down by the end of this summer.

I do however agree with those who say you have to go with what works and not fight with something just because you saw a low handicapper doing it.
 
Tashyboy said:
I think chipping is all about "what works for you" same as in driving, putting and bunkers.
Having had me head turned inside out when researching bunker shots and reading two excellent pros giving differant sorts of advice re stance (open or square) club head (open or square ) to target.
Not to sure if wristy is right or wrong or wrong or right. What I did read a few months ago though that did strike a cord is that what ever you decide, commit to the shot and the "following through" is just as important as hitting the ball whether it's wrists or not.
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I have to agree with the first statement. I use the linear as I think most are aware. Firm wrists and just a turn around the left foot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7hLmcF6eoo
 
I find chipping with wrist/hands to be far too twitchy to be consistent, for me, much more consistent ball striking with a shoulders only stiff wristed chipping action.
 
I always find these threads confusing - especially when chipping and pitching get put together.

In my simple mind a chip is a putt with a more lofted, and generally more powerfull, club whilst a pitch is fundamentally a golf swing.

I realise that this isn't everyone's working definition but it seems simple enough?

As a 6 iron greenside chip of 100ft won't need more than a 1ft 'backswing' if hit cleanly from the centre of the club, hinging hardly comes into it!

For most people the issue is repetively hitting the ball cleanly from the centre of the club and for me the less distance the club head travels, and the least involvement of any small muscles to do so, has to be the most logical approach.
 
I've just remembered a tip that I once heard Sam Torrance give to a ProAm partner who was having chipping problems. It was to make the clubhead move first, which implies a little bit of wrist hinge to maybe at least preset the impact position. I tried this when practising chipping this morning and it seems to work.
 
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