Car Insurance For Youngsters....HELP

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Get yourself insured on it and add her as a named driver... or vice-versa.

Er - that's "fronting" & is illegal - the policy could be invalidated.

See this link...

http://www.easier.com/66846-drivers-risk-invalidating-insurance-by-fronting.html

Whoops... Didn't I add make sure you drive it more than your child? :rolleyes:

To be honest I don't know how it works if it's done with the child as the main driver. I do know that my Mrs just got a new car insured for her and I thought I'd like to drive it every now and then, when I was added as a named driver the cost came down by over 30%.
 

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I would charge a fortune (like they do) BUT.. would return 50% of premiums for the year if no claim was made. I think that would encourge the young lads and lasses to drive a lot more care.
 

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I would charge a fortune (like they do) BUT.. would return 50% of premiums for the year if no claim was made. I think that would encourge the young lads and lasses to drive a lot more care.

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It's a 4 lane roundabout, I was in the 2nd lane turning into the outside lane of the dual carriageway for my exit.

You're not over 50 are you?? :D

When exiting left do you not have to check that the inside lane is clear to allow the manoeuvre to take place?

This situation happened to me at the start of a holiday but I took avoiding action by completing a further round of the roundabout before exiting, that was the reason for my question.

Oh, and yes I am over 50, maybe that is why I checked!
 

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When exiting left do you not have to check that the inside lane is clear to allow the manoeuvre to take place?

I seem to recall from when I was learning to drive that the onus was on the person manoeuvring to ensure that it was safe before doing so. I'm not even sure this is taught any more.

Mirror, signal, manoeuvre - joke, now it's manoeuvre, finger!
 

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So retakes for over 50s are out, but everyone els has to alter the way they drive to avoid the incompetent then?

Couple of points Robobum if I may - don't tar everybody with the same brush.

Wait until you are over 50, and see how you feel when somebody younger than you criticises your abilities to drive. :)

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As far as I'm aware only 1 of my "flock" have had their licence revoked in the first 2 years after test but a large percentage have wrecked cars.

I blame the instructors, seriously

People don't get the chance to chuck a car around with a driving instructor, they just potter around at 30mph, so the moment they have the chance out by themselves they will take the opportunity to experiment somewhat.

Most test routes involve roads with 50mph limits or more. Around here we go down a dual carriageway, if they don't get to 50 they fail. Once the kids know how to get the car down the road we cover all types of roads except Mways of course. Any ADI worth his badge will do the same. Being in a semi-rural area the test routes start in town but can encompass housing estates, country lanes and DC's as well. If they can't drive on these roads, they fail. Believe me, they only "potter" at 30 when they have to. Show 'em a National SL sign and they turn into Jensen Button.

And another thing.
If you're driving properly there shouldn't be any need to "chuck" a car around.
 

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So retakes for over 50s are out, but everyone els has to alter the way they drive to avoid the incompetent then?

Don't we all have to do that then, no matter what the age of the other driver?

Being a tad over 50 (OK, I know that I've been told that I don't look it but she was only after me for my body :D), I know that I probably wouldn't pass the driving test now without a bit of theory work first and little tricks like checking your mirrors before changing gear (wtf ???), but I do know that insurance companies price according to the risk.

Driving a 3 ltr wolf in lambs clothing I pay less than £300 a year fully comp. Thats 10% the price that drivers 1/3rd of my age can pay.

Where is the incompetence? Where is the risk?
 

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So retakes for over 50s are out, but everyone els has to alter the way they drive to avoid the incompetent then?

Couple of points Robobum if I may - don't tar everybody with the same brush.

Wait until you are over 50, and see how you feel when somebody younger than you criticises your abilities to drive. :)

Golfmmad.

Couple of points GM, if I may - On this point everyone SHOULD be tarred with the same brush, ie. we ALL should be retaking tests at certain intervals regardless of age.

When should age exempt you from criticism?? If I drive like a twonk when I am 50+ then I am fully deserving of any criticism coming my way.
 

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If you're driving properly there shouldn't be any need to "chuck" a car around.

Yes, I know but what happens is they CAN'T handle one at all, especially when they suddenly switch to driving at breakneck speed with only one hand on the wheel. Not a personal pop at you, just believe the system can/should RECOGNISE that people don't drive like Mary Poppins.
 

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So retakes for over 50s are out, but everyone els has to alter the way they drive to avoid the incompetent then?

Couple of points Robobum if I may - don't tar everybody with the same brush.

Wait until you are over 50, and see how you feel when somebody younger than you criticises your abilities to drive. :)

Golfmmad.

Couple of points GM, if I may - On this point everyone SHOULD be tarred with the same brush, ie. we ALL should be retaking tests at certain intervals regardless of age.

When should age exempt you from criticism?? If I drive like a twonk when I am 50+ then I am fully deserving of any criticism coming my way.

A bit surprised at the sarcasm at the start of your reply. I wasn't having a go at you, merely stating my thoughts.

I don't disagree with taking tests at certain intervals, regardless of age.

I'm not saying anybody is exempt from criticism either, I often see drivers at age 20, 30, and 40 driving like twonks, not just 50 plus year olds.

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Im 17 and after passing my test, i got a Fiat Punto V reg 1999 car and for Third party only, the insurance cost me £4602.80 for 12 months, its bloody expensive for young drivers that have just passed. so hope you have Deep Deep Pockets, lol
 

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A bit surprised at the sarcasm at the start of your reply. I wasn't having a go at you, merely stating my thoughts.

I don't disagree with taking tests at certain intervals, regardless of age.

I'm not saying anybody is exempt from criticism either, I often see drivers at age 20, 30, and 40 driving like twonks, not just 50 plus year olds.

Golfmmad.

Come on GM, I've only retyped what you orginally wrote, I didn't take your's as a dig and mine wasn't meant as a dig either, if you've taken it that way, I apologise. :D


This started as a reply to Murph who didn't see why over 50s should have to retake a test if they haven't had an accident, I disagreed. Since then this has wandered all over the place.............................................................just like a 50+ year old driver leaving a roundabout.



(That was a joke by the way, no offence is meant to any elder statesmen, whether you can drive or not.) :p
 

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Im 17 and after passing my test, i got a Fiat Punto V reg 1999 car and for Third party only, the insurance cost me £4602.80 for 12 months, its bloody expensive for young drivers that have just passed. so hope you have Deep Deep Pockets, lol

How many times have you crashed it so far?
 

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A bit surprised at the sarcasm at the start of your reply. I wasn't having a go at you, merely stating my thoughts.

I don't disagree with taking tests at certain intervals, regardless of age.

I'm not saying anybody is exempt from criticism either, I often see drivers at age 20, 30, and 40 driving like twonks, not just 50 plus year olds.

Golfmmad.

Come on GM, I've only retyped what you orginally wrote, I didn't take your's as a dig and mine wasn't meant as a dig either, if you've taken it that way, I apologise. :D


This started as a reply to Murph who didn't see why over 50s should have to retake a test if they haven't had an accident, I disagreed. Since then this has wandered all over the place.............................................................just like a 50+ year old driver leaving a roundabout.



(That was a joke by the way, no offence is meant to any elder statesmen, whether you can drive or not.) :p

No worries RB, It's sometimes difficult to understand how to take a post, especially if there are no smileys. :)

Oh, and over 50's doesn't apply to me anyway, 'cos I'm over 60 - just :cool:

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When I passed my my test aged 17 (2004) my first car was a 1993 L reg 1.4 Astra (great cars btw) and my premium was £1800 but that's the cheapest I could find which I think is well over the top, especially as I was still living at my mums - It's Berkhamsted not sodding Bosnia!

I then got caught doing something silly and just at the age where I could stop declaring it to insurers I became eligable for a company car at work so I have never seen the reduction in premiums that experience brings! Oh well, it's swings and roundabouts and all that...
 
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