Callaway Epic - Does it merit all the hype..... OH YES!!!

i have hit and ordered the standard epic. I have a very slow swing speed and its the first driver i have had that got me over 200 yards. Love the feel and sound and it just wants to go straight for me.

That is the million dollar question "will it go straight". I will find out tomorrow when I play a round with it.
 
I have a fitting at Moor park, booked through Complete Golfer in Northwood. I also think they do TM, but you would have to ask them what x flex shafts they have for either. Have a look at their web site about the fitting studio. The Moor Park fitting studio is owned by CG.

That said, with your swing speed, you would be better off at precision golf, but it is serious money!
 
With the stock X shaft that I tried i was only getting the 1890 spin which according to my pro is about right. How much lower spin would the Hzrdus Black be and would it go further.

No, not tried the M1 as he does not stock Taylor Made.

Where could I try them both side by side?

Callaway Epic Sub Zero 9Deg 60g X Flex

Carry Av - 303yds
Backspin (Rpm) Av - 1890
Launch Av - 14.6 Deg

not too sure if it would go much further but always worth a look. The low spin Hzrdus shafts are pretty special tbh.

If you could get to a top fitter like tour x or precision then it would benefit you, They would have a lot more shafts than someone like American Golf has. If you just want to hit them to see the difference the local American golf would probably worth looking at. The M1 has the Hzrdus yellow as a stock shaft, so low spinning but slightly counter balanced and the black as a no charge custom fit shaft option. I went with the yellow and was picking up 4-5 mph clubhead speed compared the the ping G I've got now and the Epic
 
I have a fitting at Moor park, booked through Complete Golfer in Northwood. I also think they do TM, but you would have to ask them what x flex shafts they have for either. Have a look at their web site about the fitting studio. The Moor Park fitting studio is owned by CG.

That said, with your swing speed, you would be better off at precision golf, but it is serious money!

Thanks for the information. I'm based in St.Albans so not far away from Moor Park. I will give them a call to see what X shafts they have in stock before placing my order.
 
When you're spending that much is definitely worthwhile making sure it's completely right for you.

All this talk of the Epic is making me think about searching for a sub zero to try out
 
My nephew , decent player ( 0-1 cap ) works for a large golf outlet
Has access to all the fitting gear and launch monitor
Has tried them all , and just ordered the new epic sub zero , traded in last years M1 that he had , against it

Epic sub zero
9 deg
ALDILA Rogue max 75 , X - flex

He says it's great bit of kit 👍
 
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Just got back from a fitting for the Ping G and it was not going any further than my current driver of choice, the G10. I was walking out of the swing studio and my pro said try this. WOW!!! I've just gained 16 yards more carry. It was the Callaway Epic Sub Zero.

I have always been the most sceptical person around when it comes to driver technology hence why I am still gaming a 9 year old G10 but these stats are crazy!!! It almost feels like it should be illegal.

What are your thoughts on this?

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Current Ping G10 67g X flex
Carry Av - 287yds
Backspin (Rpm) Av - 2430
Launch Av - 13.8 Deg

Ping G 9Deg 65g X flex
Carry Av - 284yds
Backspin (Rpm) Av - 2781
Launch Av - 13.3 Deg

Ping G 9Deg 80g X flex
Carry Av - 281yds
Backspin (Rpm) Av - 2580
Launch Av - 13.1 Deg

Callaway Epic Sub Zero 9Deg 60g X Flex
Carry Av - 303yds
Backspin (Rpm) Av - 1890
Launch Av - 14.6 Deg


Callaway Epic 9Deg 60g X Flex
Carry Av - 301yds
Backspin (Rpm) Av - 2310
Launch Av - 14.4 Deg


My thoughts are that those results will not be repeatable on a golf course!

Other testers (Shiels, Crossfield etc) have not seen such gains.

However, if you feel the Epic offers you something extra then go for it.
 
My thoughts are that those results will not be repeatable on a golf course!

Other testers (Shiels, Crossfield etc) have not seen such gains.

However, if you feel the Epic offers you something extra then go for it.

Yes but I wonder how much of an impact the much lighter shaft and it's configuration had on those stats, his swing speed could be far more suited to the lighter shaft and its now producing what he was always missing?
 
Just got back from a fitting for the Ping G and it was not going any further than my current driver of choice, the G10. I was walking out of the swing studio and my pro said try this. WOW!!! I've just gained 16 yards more carry. It was the Callaway Epic Sub Zero.

I have always been the most sceptical person around when it comes to driver technology hence why I am still gaming a 9 year old G10 but these stats are crazy!!! It almost feels like it should be illegal.

What are your thoughts on this?

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Current Ping G10 67g X flex
Carry Av - 287yds
Backspin (Rpm) Av - 2430
Launch Av - 13.8 Deg

Ping G 9Deg 65g X flex
Carry Av - 284yds
Backspin (Rpm) Av - 2781
Launch Av - 13.3 Deg

Ping G 9Deg 80g X flex
Carry Av - 281yds
Backspin (Rpm) Av - 2580
Launch Av - 13.1 Deg

Callaway Epic Sub Zero 9Deg 60g X Flex
Carry Av - 303yds
Backspin (Rpm) Av - 1890
Launch Av - 14.6 Deg


Callaway Epic 9Deg 60g X Flex
Carry Av - 301yds
Backspin (Rpm) Av - 2310
Launch Av - 14.4 Deg


My thoughts are:

Using something, not gaming something.
 
After all the excitement in the build up to this release I hit a demo of the Epic and the SZ and I was left underwhelmed. Both shorter than present driver and no improvement in dispertion. I didn't like the feel of the club and it just wasn't for me. However, like everything, not every driver will suit every golfer and these ones just weren't for me.
 
My nephew , decent player ( 0-1 cap ) works for a large golf outlet
Has access to all the fitting gear and launch monitor
Has tried them all , and just ordered the new epic sub zero , traded in last years M1 that he had , against it

Epic sub zero
9 deg
ALDILA Rogue max 75 , X - flex

He says it's great bit of kit 👍

Th guys at my local AG were all singing the Epic's paradises yesterday, saying it lived up to its (their) name
 
My thoughts are that those results will not be repeatable on a golf course!

Other testers (Shiels, Crossfield etc) have not seen such gains.

However, if you feel the Epic offers you something extra then go for it.


I couldn't agree more Ken. I just can't imagine getting on the course tomorrow and suddenly having an extra 16 yards of carry!!!

The proof will be in the pudding though, I'm borrowing the exact same club and 60g shaft that gained me those 16 extra yards out on the course tomorrow so we will see.

I've never been fitted for a driver before so as 'Fish', one of the other forum members said, "how much of an impact the much lighter shaft and it's configuration had on those stats". We shall see.

I will post results after my round.
 
My thoughts are that those results will not be repeatable on a golf course!

Other testers (Shiels, Crossfield etc) have not seen such gains.

However, if you feel the Epic offers you something extra then go for it.

This will actually depend on what driver it is up against.

Mark Crossfield did a test against his old Nike driver might have been a victory red[don't quote me] and in his dry test he was 10 yards longer,however out on the course it was 16 or 17 on 1 drive but well over 10 on others.
 
This will actually depend on what driver it is up against.

Mark Crossfield did a test against his old Nike driver might have been a victory red[don't quote me] and in his dry test he was 10 yards longer,however out on the course it was 16 or 17 on 1 drive but well over 10 on others.

Just watched the Callaway Epic Vs Nike Vapour Mark Crossfield video you mentioned above and it speaks for itself. He has consistent gains of over 10 yards.

I still can't help thinking that the G10 that I have gamed for the last 8 years or so was probably not actually the right club (setup) for me in the first place. Would new technology really gains me the extra 16 yards of carry quote on the original stats that I posted? I'm doubtful.

That said, my old G10 is my old faithful and has served me well.... until now. Or not if I can't hit the epic straight(ish) on the course tomorrow.
 
Something I was wondering too
No, only tried the Fujikura Pro Green 62 in X flex and from what my pro recommended and what you guys on the forum have mentioned the 1890 RPM spin I was getting was about right. Do any of you think trying a different shaft would gain me (I can't believe I am going to say this) even more than 16 extra yards carry over my old G10?
 
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