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[Neilds]

@Arthur Wedge - a few people have mentioned the hard cap, you appear to be ignoring these posts. Is it because they debunk your claims?

 

[Arthur Wedge]

@Arthur Wedge - a few people have mentioned the hard cap, you appear to be ignoring these posts. Is it because they debunk your claims?

I know the hard cap and can’t post the evidence on here because it includes people’s names

The results are still there from the opens in 22/23 and the results are still there form 2024 both showing players HCs

Also have email from one of the players clubs highlighting the issue that was sent to them by EG and clubs

 

[Swango1980]

@Arthur Wedge - a few people have mentioned the hard cap, you appear to be ignoring these posts. Is it because they debunk your claims?

It seems to me a case of a member of the forum taking a story to back up their "WHS is rubbish" argument, and completely sensationalizing it to make s stronger impact.

Then caught out when the issue of the hard cap is mentioned, and repeatedly failing to answer how such a thing is possible when the hard cap should stop it. But, rather than admitting they may be mistaken, doubling down and just insisting it happened, no idea how it happened, but still confident enough to blame WHS for it.

 

[Swango1980]

I know the hard cap and can’t post the evidence on here because it includes people’s names

The results are still there from the opens in 22/23 and the results are still there form 2024 both showing players HCs

Nobody wants or needs names.

Can you not just give us the mathematics as to how somebodies handicap has increased by that much in 18 months? All the equations are public knowledge in the WHS manual.

As has already been mentioned, it seems more than likely that if anybody's handicap has changed by this much, it has been done manually by someone that has access to the WHS system. So, it is a human action that has done it, not WHS.

 

[Orikoru]

Should many of these comments be transferred to another thread? There now seems to be no relevance to buffer zones. Ironically, it seems the OP is the one that has gone off on a tangent.

Straight down the rabbithole with all the other WHS threads now.

 

[Deleted member 35927]

Straight down the rabbithole with all the other WHS threads now.

Yep and considering some say they don't care, , they actually really seem to..

 

[rulie]

Guess people’s experience will vary depending on the club and what’s in place


But the manipulation issue with WHS is there and everyone knows it’s there and it’s been discussed multiple times

Some don’t think it happens - clubs clearly do think it does with restrictions being put in place



Very much so - even if some don’t want to see that

Clubs don’t trust the players that abuse the system. Cheats will cheat.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Clubs don’t trust the players that abuse the system. Cheats will cheat.

Very much so - the system and mainly the ease of putting in GP scores ( and self deleting ) has made it easier

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Does this show clubs don’t trust the system.?

The old system, 3 cards per year only needed to keep an active handicap, wasn't great either. This adds an extra layer to the system which isn't a bad thing, more than occurred previously.

As others have said, cheats will always look to cheat. They cheated under the old system, they cheat under this one. Clubs are at least recognising this now and trying to deal with it.

 

[nickjdavis]

I know the hard cap and can’t post the evidence on here because it includes people’s names

The results are still there from the opens in 22/23 and the results are still there form 2024 both showing players HCs

Also have email from one of the players clubs highlighting the issue that was sent to them by EG and clubs

Are these publicly posted results on the web?

Just provide links to the 22/23 open results page and the 2024 results page, dont mention which players are involved....just let folks work things out for themselves.

 

[Swango1980]

Are these publicly posted results on the web?

Just provide links to the 22/23 open results page and the 2024 results page, dont mention which players are involved....just let folks work things out for themselves.

Problem with that is that he has already accused them of cheating on a public forum. So if he posts a link to them, it doesn't really matter what others conclude, the accusation is out there. I believe we had a similar incident in this forum a few months back, maybe a year ago, where someone posted a link to the results, and thus putting the names out there and the clubs involved. Was quickly taken down

 

[Arthur Wedge]

The old system, 3 cards per year only needed to keep an active handicap, wasn't great either. This adds an extra layer to the system which isn't a bad thing, more than occurred previously.

As others have said, cheats will always look to cheat. They cheated under the old system, they cheat under this one. Clubs are at least recognising this now and trying to deal with it.

Old system wasn’t great at all

Think there needs to be more ticks needed for GP scores

 

[Deleted member 35927]

Problem with that is that he has already accused them of cheating on a public forum. So if he posts a link to them, it doesn't really matter what others conclude, the accusation is out there. I believe we had a similar incident in this forum a few months back, maybe a year ago, where someone posted a link to the results, and thus putting the names out there and the clubs involved. Was quickly taken down

Ah yes the great jumper bandits. ,I think was also the OP. I get the impression he cares very much about whs.

 

[Pin-seeker]

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