Bubba to repaint the General Lee

[Tashyboy]

If Bubba was put under intense pressure to cover the fed flag roof with a sunroof then I would say "yup he bowed to PC pressure". But he didn't and he wasn't, he and he alone made that decision, and good on him.

 

[Old Skier]

Pity they all don't show the same concern over their crazy gun laws. Soon you won't be able to buy a confederate flag but if you want an automatic just show your driving license.

Countrys mad.

 

[USER1999]

Perhaps he should turn it into a convertible?

 

[Slab]

I don't quite get it

I read that he's owned the car for three years, has the flag only just become offensive (because of some nutter) and if so will it still be offensive next month if the flag was used to lower a child to safety from a burning building

If its not its link to the recent tragedy then why didn't he paint over it three years ago when he bought it?

 

[Hacker Khan]

I don't quite get it

I read that he's owned the car for three years, has the flag only just become offensive (because of some nutter) and if so will it still be offensive next month if the flag was used to lower a child to safety from a burning building

If its not its link to the recent tragedy then why didn't he paint over it three years ago when he bought it?

The link with the recent massacre has caused people to question the flags use. Sometimes it takes incidents like this for people to reevaluate what is acceptable or not in modern society.

If it was used to lower a child from a burning building it is being used purely as a piece of material, and what is on that material is not relevant. If it is being used by someone who massacres innocent people in a church as a symbol of his beliefs, then the symbolism of the flag is important.

 

[Ethan]

I don't care much for Bubba, but this is the right thing to do. Media savvy too.

A time comes when so-called traditional symbols and language become unacceptable and that tipping point has come for the confederate flag which has a lot of negative connotations for many Americans. No doubt some people have a rosier image of it and do not have racist associations, but try displaying the swastika and arguing that you are celebrating the ancient Buddhist symbol denoting auspiciousness.

 

[Crazyface]

It is wrong to paint over this, for the simple reason that it will change the nature of the car itself. It was only part of a TV program, and a very popular one too, remember Daisy Dukes? Phoar !!!!! The program did not focus on being racist did it?
If Mr Watson raced around in the car screaming racist remarks though the window because he saw the car as a symbol of The South and it's values of 200 years ago then maybe it would be best that he did repaint the car. But he doesn't, it doesn't so why ????

 

[Slab]

I don't care much for Bubba, but this is the right thing to do. Media savvy too.

A time comes when so-called traditional symbols and language become unacceptable and that tipping point has come for the confederate flag which has a lot of negative connotations for many Americans. No doubt some people have a rosier image of it and do not have racist associations, but try displaying the swastika and arguing that you are celebrating the ancient Buddhist symbol denoting auspiciousness.

As it happens I pass a small building on the way to work with a prominent swastika above the door, of course its a small Hindu temple and I'm not aware of any suggestion to remove it

Hacker khan your reply made sense but I wonder how far this would/should go if we're to remove symbols/text, songs, poems or images because one or more people adopt it and gain infamy (google has several millions references & copies of the flag on its search engine alone)

It seems obvious that such things shouldn't be flaunted or held up as propaganda but with the internet available to almost all then any item could be used this way and perhaps Bubba is now a 'victim' of his own social media presence (after all I had no idea he even owned one of the general lee cars until he said he'd paint it)

 

[Old Skier]

but try displaying the swastika and arguing that you are celebrating the ancient Buddhist symbol denoting auspiciousness.

I think youll find that the symbol is the otherway around on the Buddhist emblem as displayed with pride at the Danish Carslberg factory.

Its just a flag, just because some loon wants to use it for all the wrong reasons should'nt get people all het up. We already have instences in this country where you arnt allowed to fly the UJ/UF or the flag of England. People need to get a life, there are more important things in life to sort out.

 

[c1973]

I don't care much for Bubba, but this is the right thing to do. Media savvy too.

A time comes when so-called traditional symbols and language become unacceptable and that tipping point has come for the confederate flag which has a lot of negative connotations for many Americans. No doubt some people have a rosier image of it and do not have racist associations, but try displaying the swastika and arguing that you are celebrating the ancient Buddhist symbol denoting auspiciousness.

Without wishing to go off topic.

Just an observation brought about by your avatar, do you think Eire and Northern Ireland should get rid of their flags due to their 'links' with terrorism?

I'd assume your answer would be no (as would mine), and I have to say I don't see much difference between the two.
I'm willing to wager you'd be against any campaign by Eire Protestants or indeed Northern Irish Catholics designed to make folks ashamed of flying 'hijacked' flags.






Just because the likes of the KKK, Aryan Nation/Brotherhood may hijack this 'battle flag' doesn't mean it should be condemned or people made to feel guilty for flying it. Like it or not it is part of the heritage of a great many people and should be accepted as such.


Tolerance is a word often used by those unaware of their own intolerance imvho. 😃

 

[Old Skier]

Let's ban all white pillowcases.

 

[drdel]

Oh dear PC taken to extreme.

They consumed hordes of these cars so it hardly unique and loads were converted as look-alikes.

 

[Ethan]

Without wishing to go off topic.

Just an observation brought about by your avatar, do you think Eire and Northern Ireland should get rid of their flags due to their 'links' with terrorism?

I'd assume your answer would be no (as would mine), and I have to say I don't see much difference between the two.
I'm willing to wager you'd be against any campaign by Eire Protestants or indeed Northern Irish Catholics designed to make folks ashamed of flying 'hijacked' flags.






Just because the likes of the KKK, Aryan Nation/Brotherhood may hijack this 'battle flag' doesn't mean it should be condemned or people made to feel guilty for flying it. Like it or not it is part of the heritage of a great many people and should be accepted as such.


Tolerance is a word often used by those unaware of their own intolerance imvho. 😃

Well, it is a fact that some symbols are appropriated by others and their meaning changes. That is true for the confederate flag, swastika, other Nazi symbols and some of the flags and emblems used in Ireland. I don't like vigorous displays of either the Union Jack or the Irish Tricolour intended to provoke the other side.

The different flags have different connotations in Ireland, though. The Irish Tricolour is the flag of Irish Protestants, as well as Irish Jews, Muslims and Atheists. I was unaware that Irish Protestants wanted to fly the Union Jack or that the Tricolour was used to oppress them or that they still hark back to being part of Britain. Also, they are not entitled to British citizenship if their only qualification is being born in the Republic of Ireland.

In NI, though, the Union Jack was and is used to remind the Catholics of their place and as such has a quite different connotation. All people born in NI are entitled to Irish citizenship and a passport, so there is more of dual identity than down south.

 

[alexbrownmp]

A very strong argument there, backed up with a good understanding of the historical context of that flag.

Not sure you are understanding the discussion flow here.

 

[Old Skier]

In NI, though, the Union Jack was and is used to remind the Catholics of their place and as such has a quite different connotation.

Absolute rubbish, if that is the case why are so many NI Catholics quite happy to come across to the mainland and are quite happy joining in with the rest of the community.

Is this a poor attempt to drive the thread off topic.