Brexit - The negotiations.

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Kellfire said:
You don’t say much, do you? You seem to be “EU BAD, BRITAIN GOOD” yet fail to recognise the obvious benefits of the EU.
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I didnt say that.

But I do believe that Britain will be fine outside of the EU and I dont doubt any obvious benefits of the EU, but if the bad outweighs the good and we cant pick and choose what we want then I'm content to go our own way
 
SocketRocket said:
The US are our single biggest trading country and one that we trade with at a surplus. We already buy a lot from them and we will have the opportunity do so at lower prices. Have you spent any time in the US? I have fami,y there and visit often, I've also ran an office over there, the food has always been very good and I've never had problems with it, none of my Sons family are getting ill with food poisoning but I've had some very dodgy food in the UK and in Europe over the years. This is another remainer scare story.
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I'm far more concerned about the environmental impact as our farmers have to compete with US imports than whether you've had food poisoning.
 
chrisd said:
No, I would have voted against for the reasons that the majority of voters did in 2016

Dominic Cummings does not run the country

The ECJ has ruled against the UK a high percentage of times

There will be a EU army in time, it's what they want

I voted with my heart and long term knowledge in order to free people from the clutches of the EU and one day you will realise it was for the best
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Dominic Cummings provides much of the strategy for Johnson. You don't actually think Johnson develop this own ideas. He is a cypher at best.

I said that the UK Parliament has agreed the great majority of EU regulations put before it. True or false?

The UK wins a higher percentage of cases before the ECJ than most other European countries. It is in the nature of being taken to the ECJ that you lose more than you win, they don't take them unless they think it is likely. Some of these cases also confer benefits to UK citizens that its Govt tried to keep from them.

The UK's departure makes an EU Army more likely, but it is still rather unlikely, in my opinion.

"Free people from the clutches". Christ, that sort of hyperbolic political frottism is exactly the problem with Brexit. I will never agree it was for the best.
 
robinthehood said:
Are we excited about a US trade deal and access to all the lovely sub standard food and the lowering of standards that it will bring.
Can chicken get any cheaper?
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robinthehood said:
I'm far more concerned about the environmental impact as our farmers have to compete with US imports than whether you've had food poisoning.
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That's not what you said.
 
Kellfire said:
You don’t but I’ll remind you something it isn’t which you seem to think it is - it’s not a combined army made up of EU states.
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Its the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, also called the North Atlantic Alliance, is an intergovernmental military alliance between 30 North American and European countries and I think you will find that includes European States.

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Kellfire said:
In a world where an army is sadly necessary (although we often are the instigators), a larger army with multinational scope is clearly an advantage. That’s one of the most baffling things that people who voted for Brexit oppose.
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Does NATO not fit that brief?
 
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Foxholer said:
Kellfire said:
You believe people who hold left wing views are more likely to be racist and sexist?
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You are, perhaps deliberately, misinterpreting my post!...
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chrisd said:
Kellfire said:
So what you’re saying is that having lots of less blood and resource hungry nations able to influence the actions of our army so that we’d take part in less conflicts across the world is a bad thing?
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I dont recall saying that
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chrisd said:
Kellfire said:
Ah, so you now do agree that an EU army with no unilateral ability to wage war indiscriminately is a good thing?
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I didnt say that....
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chrisd said:
Kellfire said:
You don’t say much, do you? You seem to be “EU BAD, BRITAIN GOOD” yet fail to recognise the obvious benefits of the EU.
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I didnt say that...
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@Kelfire There's a distinct pattern here! Either you can't read/understand very well or you are deliberately misinterpreting posts. Neither option serves you well!
 
banjofred said:
What I know.....
1. Brexit may not work very well....
2. Brexit might work really well....
3. Likely some place in the middle.....which will piss both sides off.....
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You may well be right, but I dont believe its necessarily about the immediate short term, it's about the longer term future and in years to come it'll be impossible to compare what the outcome we end up with would be to, if we had stayed in
 
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