Boycott of Nike products ??

We'd have to boycott all makes then because there isn't a single track and field athlete that isn't taking some sort of banned substance. i have that info from the horses mouth

Some people just get caught

Sorry but that utter rollacks to state they are all taking banned substances
 
and there you have it!

May i ask what conclusions you have drawn ??

Are you inferring that there will always be lemmings like me who buy Nike gear or is the inference that Nike's, and any other Manufacturers for that matter , athlete endorsements have no impact on the public's buying preferences.

I can take it if it's the former just keen for you to elaborate a little.
 
May i ask what conclusions you have drawn ??

Are you inferring that there will always be lemmings like me who buy Nike gear or is the inference that Nike's, and any other Manufacturers for that matter , athlete endorsements have no impact on the public's buying preferences.

I can take it if it's the former just keen for you to elaborate a little.
just the one that IMO it doesnt matter what any large company does (within human reason and decency) people will still buy their products/services if they like them.

Are the housewives of Beverly hills going to boycott D&G for their crude and uncalled for comment on chemical children? probably not, even Sir Elton who called them out publicly had a D&G bag the next day.

So there you have it!
 
just the one that IMO it doesnt matter what any large company does (within human reason and decency) people will still buy their products/services if they like them.

Are the housewives of Beverly hills going to boycott D&G for their crude and uncalled for comment on chemical children? probably not, even Sir Elton who called them out publicly had a D&G bag the next day.

So there you have it!

Agree with this. The majority simply won't care enough to change their buying habits.
 
just the one that IMO it doesnt matter what any large company does (within human reason and decency) people will still buy their products/services if they like them.

Are the housewives of Beverly hills going to boycott D&G for their crude and uncalled for comment on chemical children? probably not, even Sir Elton who called them out publicly had a D&G bag the next day.


So there you have it!


Thanks and I totally agree with your comments. If we like it we buy it.
 
it is inconceivable to me that any pro athlete would ever accidentally or unknowingly take a banned substance, so the old "it must have been something in that cough medicine I took" doesn't wash with me!

I don't believe the governing bodies do themselves any favours by allowing proven dopers back into their sport, but the truth of the matter is that they can't prevent it as was proved by the Chambers case, probably impinges on the athletes human rights!

But it's not the sponsor who tends to be remembered in these cases, who can remember Ben Johnsons sponsors for e.g. so I very much doubt it will have any affect on Nike sales to the masses.
 
it is inconceivable to me that any pro athlete would ever accidentally or unknowingly take a banned substance, so the old "it must have been something in that cough medicine I took" doesn't wash with me!

I don't believe the governing bodies do themselves any favours by allowing proven dopers back into their sport, but the truth of the matter is that they can't prevent it as was proved by the Chambers case, probably impinges on the athletes human rights!

But it's not the sponsor who tends to be remembered in these cases, who can remember Ben Johnsons sponsors for e.g. so I very much doubt it will have any affect on Nike sales to the masses.

Alain Baxter bought an over the shelf Vicks Inhaler thjnking it was the same as the one in UK ( not banned ) - it had no significant stimulating substances in it but was on the US banned list
 
Anyone have the new Nike trouser with tee slots by the pocket? dont use them, I nearly shish kebabed a testicle when i crouched down.

Try lying on a hospital trolley for five hours with a golf-ball, tee pegs & pitch repairer in my pocket.

I did after collapsing with a heart attack on the course although, funnily enough, the discomfort from my pocket seemed to pass unnoticed although the bruising and puncture marks were more of an issue after a while.

Caused some consternation when I finally asked a nurse to "Please take my ball out of my pocket!"
 
Alain Baxter bought an over the shelf Vicks Inhaler thjnking it was the same as the one in UK ( not banned ) - it had no significant stimulating substances in it but was on the US banned list

When I played semi-pro at a distinctly lower level than Olympics I was given a list of banned substances and told to show it to the pharmacist stating "I may be tested for performance enhancing drugs, please confirm that none of the items on this list are contained in any product". So as at Olympic level I will always find it inconceivable that any athlete would simply buy an off the shelf product. Vick's vapour rub was certainly banned, so I would have been extra wary in that case.
 
When I played semi-pro at a distinctly lower level than Olympics I was given a list of banned substances and told to show it to the pharmacist stating "I may be tested for performance enhancing drugs, please confirm that none of the items on this list are contained in any product". So as at Olympic level I will always find it inconceivable that any athlete would simply buy an off the shelf product. Vick's vapour rub was certainly banned, so I would have been extra wary in that case.

The European variant wasn't on the banned list which Baxter had - it was an innocent mistake and one the IOC agreed with hence why his ban got reduced

My wife gets the banned list for her sport and Vicks Inhaler is not on it but some Beechams flu stuff

It's a nightmare and can easily see how mistakes can happen

The worst thing is most of the flu and cold stuff that is banned doesn't actually have enough substance in it to stimulate performance
 
The worst thing is most of the flu and cold stuff that is banned doesn't actually have enough substance in it to stimulate performance

I don't think that's the point though, if there are traces of banned substances, how to tell if that is from a tiny amount in some recently taken product or a leftover from high, performance enhancing doses taken out of season?
 
And do you have any evidence to back that up. Because i do
You have evidence to back up "There isn't a single track and field athelete who isn't taking a banned substance"

So why haven't you go to the governing bodies ? And what is your "evidence"
 
I don't think that's the point though, if there are traces of banned substances, how to tell if that is from a tiny amount in some recently taken product or a leftover from high, performance enhancing doses taken out of season?

By looking at other samples taken from the blood or urine - it can be easily worked out if the substance has come from a cold medication etc but it takes time to sort out
 
You have evidence to back up "There isn't a single track and field athelete who isn't taking a banned substance"

So why haven't you go to the governing bodies ? And what is your "evidence"

Why would grass someone up?

What i will say is a British 400 meter runner called Daniel kane went to America to train for the 2012 Olympics. He returned after 2 weeks and said to me personally " i cant complete clean. they're all at it "

If you want a medal then you need something
 
Why would grass someone up?

What i will say is a British 400 meter runner called Daniel kane went to America to train for the 2012 Olympics. He returned after 2 weeks and said to me personally " i cant complete clean. they're all at it "

If you want a medal then you need something

So you would let them "all" cheat - would you let someone break the rules in golf then ?

Why hadnt this Kane told the authorities that everyone is all at it ?

Is that your evidence ?

Just to be clear you are saying "every single athelete" not just a few but every single one

That's quite a statement that the IAAF would be interested in - especially if there is factual evidence to back it up ?

Is there factual evidence - if yes then let us know - if it's true then you have nothing to worry about

If you don't then my original statement stands - it's total rollacks
 
The problem will always be that the potential reward for developing masking agents and performance enhancing drugs that are currently undetectable are huge, whereas developing the testing process is all cost.
 
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