Boycott of Nike products ??

God Phil your such a jobs worth.

Im saying athletes may enter into their profession with all good intentions but soon realise they need assistance to keep up with competition.

For the sake of reprisal I'm not prepared to discuss evidence that you with your narrow mind wont accept anyway.

Go back to your moral perfect world
 
Whereditgo said:
The problem will always be that the potential reward for developing masking agents and performance enhancing drugs that are currently undetectable are huge, whereas developing the testing process is all cost.
Click to expand...
Phil will be along soon to say you're wrong
 
Whereditgo said:
The problem will always be that the potential reward for developing masking agents and performance enhancing drugs that are currently undetectable are huge, whereas developing the testing process is all cost.
Click to expand...

Yep agree - worked with the Military CDT for 18 months and it was very interesting listening to the scientists - they wish they could find a way to be proactive but it's more about reacting to new drugs
 
hovis said:
God Phil your such a jobs worth.

Im saying athletes may enter into their profession with all good intentions but soon realise they need assistance to keep up with competition.

For the sake of reprisal I'm not prepared to discuss evidence that you with your narrow mind wont accept anyway.

Go back to your moral perfect world
Click to expand...

Sorry but not sure why you are being so agressive towards me

You made a very strong statement in regards athletes which is potentially very damaged to a multi million pound sport and said you had evidence to back it up - all atheletes taking performance enhancing drugs

You have been rightly challenged to provide the evidence and back up the statement

Can you provide th evidence and back it up ?

Not sure why you need to start having a go at me

You are accusing people like Farah , Bolt etc of using drugs
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Sorry but not sure why you are being so agressive towards me

You made a very strong statement in regards athletes which is potentially very damaged to a multi million pound sport and said you had evidence to back it up - all atheletes taking performance enhancing drugs

You have been rightly challenged to provide the evidence and back up the statement

Can you provide th evidence and back it up ?

Not sure why you need to start having a go at me

You are accusing people like Farah , Bolt etc of using drugs
Click to expand...

Its your general attitude towards everything. You know everything about everything and refuse to accept anyone else's opinion and findings no matter what. How many feathers have you ruffled ob this forum for the same reason? And there is a life outside the airforce. not that you ever mention it

Oh and i don't think my comments are going to damage a multi million pound industry
 
hovis said:
Its your general attitude towards everything. You know everything about everything and refuse to accept anyone else's opinion and findings no matter what. How many feathers have you ruffled ob this forum for the same reason? And there is a life outside the airforce. not that you ever mention it

Oh and i don't think my comments are going to damage a multi million pound industry
Click to expand...

Irrelevent all I said was your comment was rubbish you said you have evidence to proofs it's not - it wasn't stated as an opinion it was stated as a fact

You haven't produced it and having a go at me makes zero difference

Your comments won't effect an industry - but your "evidence" will if it's true and correct

You can either show the evidence to prove your factual statement or continue to try and deflect from it by having a go at me
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Irrelevent all I said was your comment was rubbish you said you have evidence to proofs it's not - it wasn't stated as an opinion it was stated as a fact

You haven't produced it and having a go at me makes zero difference

Your comments won't effect an industry - but your "evidence" will if it's true and correct

You can either show the evidence to prove your factual statement or continue to try and deflect from it by having a go at me
Click to expand...

You're right Phil I'm wrong. Sorry i mentioned it. i wont let it happen again
 
hovis said:
You're right Phil I'm wrong. Sorry i mentioned it. i wont let it happen again
Click to expand...

It wasn't about bejng right or wrong

It was about making extremely false damaging statements of very serious accusations towards a lot of people without factual evidence to back them up.
 
My interest in athletics has waned considerably in recent years. I do not believe that all athletes are drug cheats but I do believe that enough of them are for it to ruin my belief in the sport. I am not interested in watching 8 athletes line up if I have doubts about 3 of them. Which 5 are clean, am I unknowingly cheering the cheat on? Not for me any more.
 
hovis said:
Why would grass someone up?

What i will say is a British 400 meter runner called Daniel kane went to America to train for the 2012 Olympics. He returned after 2 weeks and said to me personally " i cant complete clean. they're all at it "

If you want a medal then you need something
Click to expand...
Sorry of all the posts this one caught my eye the most , mainly cause of your man Daniels comment

There are a lot of strong words in this post man ..
This Daniel might have said it to you personally cant imagine he would want his name associated with it in public ,

Just curious

Are we to take from ur comments or Daniels that all the British olympic medalists in 2012 were on banned substances ?

Not sure how many medals were even won by british athletes
 
bladeplayer said:
Sorry of all the posts this one caught my eye the most , mainly cause of your man Daniels comment

There are a lot of strong words in this post man ..
This Daniel might have said it to you personally cant imagine he would want his name associated with it in public ,

Just curious

Are we to take from ur comments or Daniels that all the British olympic medalists in 2012 were on banned substances ?

Not sure how many medals were even won by british athletes
Click to expand...

The training camp he went to was a winter training camp for multi nationals. his discussed was enough for him never to step foot on a running track again

The reason why i gave away his name and not others was because he made his opinions public years ago.


I do find it suspicious how athletes dont seem to get caught through whistle blowers. This certainly suggests a closed loop of loyal offenders. Didn't lance Armstrong out a few after he got busted?
 
Last edited:
bladeplayer said:
Sorry of all the posts this one caught my eye the most , mainly cause of your man Daniels comment

There are a lot of strong words in this post man ..
This Daniel might have said it to you personally cant imagine he would want his name associated with it in public ,

Just curious

Are we to take from ur comments or Daniels that all the British olympic medalists in 2012 were on banned substances ?

Not sure how many medals were even won by british athletes
Click to expand...
Four golds - Farah x2 , Ennis and Rutherford
Silver and a Bronze
 
Me thinks Daniel was just a bit crap at running and realised he hadn't trained hard enough or was talented to compete... Sour grapes?
?
 
hovis said:
The training camp he went to was a winter training camp for multi nationals. his discussed was enough for him never to step foot on a running track again

The reason why i gave away his name and not other was because he made his opinions public years ago
Click to expand...

Cool i didnt know that , Im not having a go at you in any way mate in case you thought i was , it just seemed a rather sweeping statement
 
I'm guessing it's Daniel Caines as opposed to Kane

Can't find anything in regards this public view after a training camp - do you have a link

Could see he was a 32 year old with a knee issue who struggled since 2012 - Doesnt seem to have an issue with the sport as appears to be an ambassador of sorts with Sky

Edit : checking it seems he didn't run competively since 2007 ?
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Liverpoolphil said:
I'm guessing it's Daniel Caines as opposed to Kane

Can't find anything in regards this public view after a training camp - do you have a link

Could see he was a 32 year old with a knee issue who struggled since 2012 - Doesnt seem to have an issue with the sport as appears to be an ambassador of sorts with Sky
Click to expand...
By public i didn't mean in the sunday times. I ment in general, facebook, twitter and round the gym.
 
hovis said:
By public i didn't mean in the sunday times. I ment in general, facebook, twitter and round the gym.
Click to expand...

Can't find anything on the net about it ?

Surely if he is making something so extreme public knowledge then would expect to be able to find something significant on the net somewhere ?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Gringo El Bingo
Nike Golf M9 II Cart Bag
Replies
0
Views
1K
Gringo El Bingo
Gringo El Bingo
Top