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Boris the PM - a new beginning

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SwingsitlikeHogan said:
It's surely OK to make comparisons when they are light-hearted or affectionate - rather less so when they are used in a disparaging way. Benny from Crossroads was a lovable character...but he wasn't the Manager of the Crossroads Motel :)
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No its not ok. There's nothing light hearted or affectionate in your criticisms of Boris and you know it. It says one hell of a lot about you that you'll throw out those criticisms and then try and row back from them time and time again. You remind me very much of my ex-mother-in-law. Sunday Christian pretending to be at one with society but full of bile and derision... the sort of thing you find under a stone, on a good day.
 
Hobbit said:
No its not ok. There's nothing light hearted or affectionate in your criticisms of Boris and you know it. It says one hell of a lot about you that you'll throw out those criticisms and then try and row back from them time and time again. You remind me very much of my ex-mother-in-law. Sunday Christian pretending to be at one with society but full of bile and derision... the sort of thing you find under a stone, on a good day.
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I jokingly likened our PM in his holiday attire to Benny from Crossroads. I criticise him absolutely for his deceits, lies, manipulations and self-serving when these are used to influence and impact the public he is supposed to serve. He might be a nice guy - but IMO he is unfit to be our Prime Minster.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
I jokingly likened our PM in his holiday attire to Benny from Crossroads. I criticise him absolutely for his deceits, lies, manipulations and self-serving when these are used to influence and impact the public he is supposed to serve. He might be a nice guy - but IMO he is unfit to be our Prime Minster.
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Funny that we can receive infractions etc for " playing the man" but you, and certain other posters, continuously bait the trap ??
 
pauldj42 said:
Surely it would only be wrong if it’s the same Scot who made the post was the one complaining in the past.:unsure:

On another matter, in your experience as a Scout Master, does this fire look real to you?

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Is say no
It’s a pile of rocks with some charred wood placed

Number of problems here
Firstly you generally don’t put rocks in fires, they can explode due to tiny air pockets in the rock.

Secondly the fire would have scorched the grass and wilted the buttercups

A proper pyromaniac would have removed the turf , stored it upside down, and returned after the fire is no longer needed.

The rocks aren’t charred or blackened

So I’m calling fake
 
Apparently it was the area boris and family “camped” for 3 nights before the media found them and forced them to cut short his holiday.
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I saw some pictures on Twitter , didn't look like a tent had been pitched as the grass wasn't flat.
Think they implied that the tent had been burnt.
 
pauldj42 said:
Apparently it was the area boris and family “camped” for 3 nights before the media found them and
forced them to cut short his holiday.
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Staged, grass isn’t compressed, it’s also not a very good site for a tent , bit slopey.
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15 policy U-turns in 5 months, even Tory MPs are accusing him of making it up as he goes along.

Those 15 U-turns in full
August 25 — Masks in schools: Education secretary Gavin Williamson’s U-turn came a day after he said: ‘We are not suggesting face coverings be used in schools.’

Aug 21 — Evictions: The government resisted calls to extend a ban on evicting private tenants until three days before it expired. It was extended on August 21 for four weeks.

Aug 17 — A-level results: On August 13, Boris Johnson hailed this year’s A-level results. Mr Williamson vowed there would be ‘no U-turn’. On August 17, it was announced students would be given grades estimated by their teachers, rather than by an algorithm.

July 24 — Masks in shops: Face coverings were made compulsory in shops despite deputy chief medical officer Dr Jenny Harries saying in April they ‘don’t help’.

July 14 — Huawei: The PM ordered all technology by the Chinese firm Huawei to be stripped from Britain’s 5G network — six months after giving the go-ahead for its involvement.

June 18 — NHS tracing app: The app was announced on April 12 by health secretary Matt Hancock, who pledged it would be ‘crucial’. But on June 18, the project was abandoned, with Apple and Google taking over.

June 16 — School meals voucher scheme: Footballer Marcus Rashford played a key role in forcing a U-turn on the government’s decision not to extend the children’s food voucher scheme into the summer holidays.

June 9 — Primary school return: In May, the government said it wanted all primary pupils to have four weeks in school before the holiday. The plan was scrapped amid social distancing fears.

June 3 — Proxy voting: Parliament continued to meet during the epidemic, with MPs forced to turn up to cast their vote. After an outcry, proxy votes were allowed on June 3.

May 28 — Contact tracing: The ‘contain phase’, where all contacts of infected people were traced, was abandoned on March 13. Contact tracing was brought back on May 28.

May 21 — NHS surcharge for overseas health and care staff: Hours after the PM backed the fee, it was abolished for foreign health and care workers.

May 20 — NHS bereavement scheme: After criticism that support staff were excluded from a scheme granting families of health workers who die from Covid-19 indefinite leave, they were included.

April 15 — Care homes: On February 25, Public Health England said it was unlikely care home residents would become infected. On April 15, hospitals were asked to ensure patients discharged to care homes were tested.

April 5 — Herd immunity: In March, government advisers argued that the disease ‘needed’ to spread through the community. Chief scientific adviser Sir Patrick Vallance said the ‘key thing’ was to ‘build up some herd immunity’. On April 5, the health secretary insisted that herd immunity was ‘not our policy’.

March 23 — Lockdown: Countries across Europe went into lockdown but large public events, including the Cheltenham Festival, continued in the UK. Sir Patrick Vallance said mass gatherings ‘actually don’t make much difference’. The PM announced full lockdown on March 22, the day before it was brought in.


https://www.metro.news/i-am-concerned-we-just-keep-making-it-up-as-we-go-along/2126057/
 
chrisd said:
I'd much rather a Government that changes with immediate needs than one that sticks its head in the sand and wont budge for fear of being called out for u turns ??
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I'd rather have one that changes because they have realised their previous position was wrong (i.e. for the right reasons) than one that holds out until forced to cave by political pressure (the wrong reasons).
 
chrisd said:
I'd much rather a Government that changes with immediate needs than one that sticks its head in the sand and wont budge for fear of being called out for u turns ??
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Which is fine ... as far as it goes. But that government - when faced with a choice - will often make a strong case FOR the option they have chosen and at the same time make a strong case AGAINST the alternative. We asked to understand and to buy into that decision-making and the rationale - but then the government switches to the alternative. What are we supposed to think. We're now being asked to buy into the approach that the government had us reject. Confused? That's not really great government.
 
Ethan said:
I'd rather have one that changes because they have realised their previous position was wrong (i.e. for the right reasons) than one that holds out until forced to cave by political pressure (the wrong reasons).
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To be be fair Ethan you're going to have to wait some time for a quasi communist Labour Government of your choice ??
 
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