Boris the PM - a new beginning

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MetalMickie said:
I despair of Trump as much as anyone on here.

However, your explanation does nothing more than confirm your double standards.

You are no more qualified to comment on Trump's deficiencies than you are on Sturgeon but what is good for the goose is equally good for the gender.

Or are you simply afraid of upsetting DfT.
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:love: Careful, or I shall send Big Wullie and the boys over to give you a good dooing.:ROFLMAO:

Another SILH pile on by folk who don't like people having a different view of politics/life than themselves. same old same old.
When it comes to double standards there are a few on here miles ahead of Hogan.
The Laura Kunesberg /BBC crew for a start. She is splendid when she has a go at the Scottish Government but how very dare she speak out against the darling boy Boris.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
:love: Careful, or I shall send Big Wullie and the boys over to give you a good dooing.:ROFLMAO:

Another SILH pile on by folk who don't like people having a different view of politics/life than themselves. same old same old.
When it comes to double standards there are a few on here miles ahead of Hogan.
The Laura Kunesberg /BBC crew for a start. She is splendid when she has a go at the Scottish Government but how very dare she speak out against the darling boy Boris.
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Be fair, you're not too shabby at the double standards yourself.

Quick to rightly criticise Johnson for Westminster's shortcomings in dealing with this crisis but seemingly happy to overlook Sturgeon's similar failings resulting in a care home crisis in Scotland.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
:love: Careful, or I shall send Big Wullie and the boys over to give you a good dooing.:ROFLMAO:

Another SILH pile on by folk who don't like people having a different view of politics/life than themselves. same old same old.
When it comes to double standards there are a few on here miles ahead of Hogan.
The Laura Kunesberg /BBC crew for a start. She is splendid when she has a go at the Scottish Government but how very dare she speak out against the darling boy Boris.
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I didn't know she was a forum member. What's her username? :D
 
MetalMickie said:
Be fair, you're not too shabby at the double standards yourself.

Quick to rightly criticise Johnson for Westminster's shortcomings in dealing with this crisis but seemingly happy to overlook Sturgeon's similar failings resulting in a care home crisis in Scotland.
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You need to realise everyone can get behind a common threat/foe.The hate of anything English means NS can ride forward uncriticised against the dastardly Westminster.
 
MetalMickie said:
Be fair, you're not too shabby at the double standards yourself.

Quick to rightly criticise Johnson for Westminster's shortcomings in dealing with this crisis but seemingly happy to overlook Sturgeon's similar failings resulting in a care home crisis in Scotland.
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I cannot believe you posted that last line, how terribly insensitive of you.(n)
 
drdel said:
You need to realise everyone can get behind a common threat/foe.The hate of anything English means NS can ride forward uncriticised against the dastardly Westminster.
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Very annoying and childish comment to read and I suspect just trolling but I'll bite.
By your reckoning 45-50% of the voting electorate up here hate anything English if they agree with Sturgeon on politics, plainly ridiculous. Same as saying the 52% of UK electorate who voted to leave the EU hate anything European, very silly thing to say, clearly untrue and something I'm sure you would refute strongly.

Sturgeon for her faults at least regulalry does UK based tv interviews like earlier today on GMB and is open enough with her political agenda. Where is Johnson? Invisible. Daily coronavirus briefings to date - Sturgeon 56, Johnson 4.

Political and personal views are very very different things. Look at Pierce and Maguire - a great double act but couldn't agree on anything political, poles apart, still great friends though.
 
MetalMickie said:
I despair of Trump as much as anyone on here.

However, your explanation does nothing more than confirm your double standards.

You are no more qualified to comment on Trump's deficiencies than you are on Sturgeon but what is good for the goose is equally good for the gender.

Or are you simply afraid of upsetting DfT.
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Sorry - I don't get the double standards. I can only see Trump and Sturgeon on TV - I can only watch and listen to what they say in briefings; in US cabinet meetings; in the Scottish Parliament etc. I cannot make any judgement on the quality their government or of those working in government for Trump or Sturgeon and I don't. But I can make observations on what I hear from Trump and Sturgeon - and whatever I might think of what I hear from Sturgeon, she does not spout blatant lies and bile at all and sundry who oppose or crticise her - others might - she doesn't. But Trump does - blatantly and seemingly without shame (apparently Trump's blatant lie count since inauguration is currently over 17,000).

And so back to Johnson and the government - my 'sense' from the briefings is that there is not a massive amount of high quality politician beyond the principal officers of state (indeed that may well apply for Sturgeon's top flight - we don't get to see and hear them). That might not matter too much were Johnson providing the leadership that delegation requires, but again I am not sensing too much of that in his briefings and performances in PMQs. Anyway...we have the government we voted for and which we are stuck with for four plus years to come. And that's just how it is and so I must simple 'suck it up'.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Sorry - I don't get the double standards. I can only see Trump and Sturgeon on TV - I can only watch and listen to what they say in briefings; in US cabinet meetings; in the Scottish Parliament etc. I cannot make any judgement on the quality their government or of those working in government for Trump or Sturgeon and I don't. But I can make observations on what I hear from Trump and Sturgeon - and whatever I might think of what I hear from Sturgeon, she does not spout blatant lies and bile at all and sundry who oppose or crticise her - others might - she doesn't. But Trump does - blatantly and seemingly without shame (apparently Trump's blatant lie count since inauguration is currently over 17,000).

And so back to Johnson and the government - my 'sense' from the briefings is that there is not a massive amount of high quality politician beyond the principal officers of state (indeed that may well apply for Sturgeon's top flight - we don't get to see and hear them). That might not matter too much were Johnson providing the leadership that delegation requires, but again I am not sensing too much of that in his briefings and performances in PMQs. Anyway...we have the government we voted for and which we are stuck with for four plus years to come. And that's just how it is and so I must simple 'suck it up'.
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Perhaps best to just try a period of "No comment" then.

Can't be accused of double standards that way.

As for PMQ"s the overall consensus seems to be that this week's episode resulted in a victory for Johnson as Starmer was guilty of lack of research and, thus, killer questions.

Early days for complacency on his part I would have thought.
 
MetalMickie said:
Perhaps best to just try a period of "No comment" then.

Can't be accused of double standards that way.

As for PMQ"s the overall consensus seems to be that this week's episode resulted in a victory for Johnson as Starmer was guilty of lack of research and, thus, killer questions.

Early days for complacency on his part I would have thought.
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Was that the one where he attempted to defend the NHS surcharge on NHS workers from overseas, only to cave in on it 24 hours later?

The account I read said he had obviously done some prep for a change, and the result was better than the last 2 humiliating knockouts, but was still overwhelmingly beaten on points.

I guess we don't read the same newspapers.
 
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