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Boris the PM - a new beginning

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Reemul said:
You say this like it is correct.

It seems the majority of leavers would take a no deal over a remain.

No one has a majority on anything unfortunately but every side likes to say they have a majority.

If anyone had a proper majority on anything it would all be over, they don't and it is not.

Even the public like bullshitting each other over Brexit, everyone is as bad as everyone else.
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Think you have missed the point, there will be a very low percentage of remainers wanting to leave with no deal .. so add the remainers wanting at least a deal and the percentage of leavers wanting a deal .. and that gives you your majority.

Unless of cause your saying all leavers want no deal ?? Which is not the consensus of opinion.
 
Hard to have an agreement with EU on a deal when parliment cant even agree with each other .
Currently UK are a laughing stock . (Sorry but thats the outsiders view) when u hear interviews from politicians or public its so obvious no one knew the facts before the vote in 2016 . There were lies and scare mongering on both sides . The uk is now suffering becaue of it . Boris's team has not been offering a deal idea or suggesrion at all . Hes been hoping his strong stance on no deal would scare the EU crowd into change . 1 thing that was said will not b changed is the back stop . He comes in with it must b changed or no deal. Realy ? The border tho its on our little island is been cobsidered as a border betwen NI & RoI . It is in reality a border between uk and a EU member country ..
Businesses need this to be sorted . Uk and EU need to draw up a draft of reality consequences of a BREXIT an honest detailed writ of what WILL happen . Then post to every household in uk and have a 2nd vote . On facts . No lies and scaremongering
 
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bladeplayer said:
Hard to have an agreement with europe on a deal when parliment cant even agree with each other .
Currently UK are a laughing stock . (Sorry but thats the outsiders view) when u hear interviews from politicians or public its so obvious no one knew the facts before the vote in 2016 . There were lies and scare mongering on both sides . The uk is now suffering becaue of it . Boris's team has not been offering a deal idea or suggesrion at all . Hes been hoping his strong stance on no deal would scare the euro crowd into change . 1 thing that was said will not b changed is the back stop . He comes in with it must b changed or no deal. Realy ? The border tho its on our little island is been cobsidered as a border betwen NI & RoI . It is in reality a border between uk and europe ..
Businesses need this to be sorted . Uk and europe need to draw up a draft of reality consequences of a BREXIT an honest detailed writ of what WILL happen . Then post to every household in uk and have a 2nd vote . On facts . No lies and scaremongering
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3+ years in (and not just you, see it on tv, hear it on the radio) - think you have "Europe" and "EU" mixed up.
I was in Europe 5 years ago, am today, and expect to be in 5 years time - whatever things the politicians and bureaucrats dream up 👍
 
IainP said:
3+ years in (and not just you, see it on tv, hear it on the radio) - think you have "Europe" and "EU" mixed up.
I was in Europe 5 years ago, am today, and expect to be in 5 years time - whatever things the politicians and bureaucrats dream up 👍
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apologies im not sure what u mean by me having europe and eu mixed up ..
 
IainP said:
Okay. Expect the numbers can be interpreted/argued a little, but a quick search gives :
"Currently, 22 countries located in the continent of Europe, are not part of the European Union. "
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ah ok yea i apologise for lose use of europe .. i should b using EU .. got ya now .. as far as i know its not possible for uk to leave Europe . But yes i was incorrect in terminology .
 
Old Skier said:
We don't have deals with Europe, we have deals with European countries within the EU.
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IainP said:
Okay. Expect the numbers can be interpreted/argued a little, but a quick search gives :
"Currently, 22 countries located in the continent of Europe, are not part of the European Union. "
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We may also have 'deals' through the EU, with other European (and elsewhere) countries not in the EU.
 
Old Skier said:
Not sure what a quirte is but I'm sure you can put me right.
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Post amended! I was too keen to get back to watching Nadal adjust his underwear and check his facial features! Though I hardly think YOU shood (sic) take on the role of speling (sic) polce (sic)!
 
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Doon frae Troon said:
Johnson looked like a pricked balloon in the HoC last night.
That Tory front bench, gawd help us, surely the worst in political history.
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He did look a bit of a glumster - apart from when he was waving his arms around and playing to the (Tory backbench ) audience with his bullish bluster as he does.

On the Tory front bench - looking at them at one point I think we had MGove, PPatel, KKwarteng, DRabb, JRMogg, NMorgan, SJavid and TVilliers. Good grief. No point in Labour front bench whatabootery - it's the Tories who are in 'government'.

At one point BJ was squeezed between Villiers and Morgan - and looked less than either.
 
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SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Apart from when he was waving his arms around and playing to the (Tory backbench ) audience as he does.

On the Tory front bench - looking at them at one point I think we had MGove, PPatel, KKwarteng, DRabb, JRMogg, NMorgan, SJavid and TVilliers. Good grief. No point in Labour front bench whatabootery - it's the Tories who are in 'government'.
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But probably shouldn't/wouldn't be if it weren't for the Labour front bench.
 
ColchesterFC said:
But probably shouldn't/wouldn't be if it weren't for the Labour front bench.
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Well it might be uncomfortable for them - but Johnson and his crew can stew in their own juice for a bit more given the chaos and mess we are in, and that they initiated under Cameron, and perpetuated under May - before Johnson decided to up the ante - and that has worked well...

Complain all they might like about the opposition not playing their GE game - but for as long as they fail to accept their own responsibilities for this and continue to play games - then why on earth should the opposition parties help them out of their discomfort and predicament.

The electorate is supposed to wait 5yrs for an election - we can wait another 6weeks...or whatever
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Well it might be uncomfortable for them - but Johnson and his crew can stew in their own juice for a bit more given the chaos and mess we are in, and that they initiated under Cameron, and perpetuated under May - before Johnson decided to up the ante - and that has worked well...

Complain all they might like about the opposition not playing their GE game - but for as long as they fail to accept their own responsibilities for this and continue to play games - then why on earth should the opposition parties help them out of their discomfort and predicament.

The electorate is supposed to wait 5yrs for an election - we can wait another 6weeks...or whatever
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But businesses want closure ASAP.
 
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