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Boris the PM - a new beginning

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Crazyface said:
No, we sat and listened to all the debates and they told us sod all about why we should remain. Whereas the Leave side had three key points and kept on message. I was on the leave side before the debates and was really looking forward to being informed of the FULL reasons why we, as a country, should stay within the European idea. But the remain side failed to do this. No wonder. Hey did you know that the European parliament is going to have it's own Nation anthem and a super duper army all of it's own as well. oh and to be full run by......THE GERMANS. Hmmmmm If we'd have been told THAT we'd not be having this online debate the vote would have been 90% out !!!!!!! and we'd have run a mile!!!!!!!!
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You need to keep up with the news. The EU army will be controlled full time by the French President. Germany want nothing to do with leading it because of the history, and Merkel has put her support behind Macron.
 
SocketRocket said:
A remain government was in office, it was up to them (Cameron) to have a plab B, not the General Public who voted leave. Think about it.
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Which is true - with the basic underlying logic behind the Remain government strategy being that Remain would win on 23/6. That did not happen - the Remain government did not have a Plan B - we have a mess.

And today - we have a Leave government strategy that has an underlying logic that UK will leave on 31/10. The Leave government does not have a Plan B - if it does not happen - we have a mess?
 
Oh, they Remain Government had a plan a,b and c all right.... executed right up till Wednesday this week. But you've ignored it all in the other thread, so this wont be any different.

Back on topic, I've liked the way Boris has booted Corbyn up the bott in the Commons so far, but lets see how he delivers. Given the way media and education has made "rubbishing the UK" the norm, his language must be really irritating certain folk..... :-)
 
lobthewedge said:
I just find it amusing that Doon is very quick to slap down another poster, deriding him for allegedly holding historic grudges, when many of his fellow SNP supporters are more than happy to stir up anti English sentiment with references to Culloden and the Clearances etc while harping back to the days of Wallace, Bruce and Bannockburn.
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Once again it is not anti English but anti Westminster. How many times do I have to repeat that to lazy stereotyped posters for it to sink in.
There are many English residents of Scotland who are members of the SNP, I know of at least 4 within the nearest 20 houses to me.
There are also many English residents in Scotland who are not members of the SNP but are supporters of independence.
Do you think they stir up anti English sentiment and hold 'historical grudges'.:unsure:

As Maxfi says all political parties have their share of zoomers but I can honestly say that I have met very few of lobthewedge's description.
On pro independence Blog sites that I view, blatant anti English views are generally slapped down pretty sharpish.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1154430322009919493

Certainly doing well avoiding direct questions
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Pretty much all avoid direct questions. Not sure there's a decent politician at or near the top of any party. I expect that with Boris' record of flowery language he'll face plenty of questions that are cringeworthy.

That said, is a question like that really making best use of parliamentary time?
 
Hobbit said:
Pretty much all avoid direct questions. Not sure there's a decent politician at or near the top of any party. I expect that with Boris' record of flowery language he'll face plenty of questions that are cringeworthy.

That said, is a question like that really making best use of parliamentary time?
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Where as all the Brexit stuff is? We've been virtually paralised in terms of movement on just about anything for 3 years so not sure someone trying to hold our PM to account for all the garbage he's spouted in a desperate attempt to gain power is that much of a problem to me.
 
Hacker Khan said:
Where as all the Brexit stuff is? We've been virtually paralised in terms of movement on just about anything for 3 years so not sure someone trying to hold our PM to account for all the garbage he's spouted in a desperate attempt to gain power is that much of a problem to me.
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Could have been avoided. May screwed it, many MPs can't stomach their constituents view. Back Boris and it will be sorted in October and we can get on with sorting other issues.
 
SocketRocket said:
Could have been avoided. May screwed it, many MPs can't stomach their constituents view. Back Boris and it will be sorted in October and we can get on with sorting other issues.
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Oof weren't that long ago you were telling us you have never supported Boris and now it's back him like some kind of brexit messiah ? He's not you know ..
 
robinthehood said:
Oof weren't that long ago you were telling us you have never supported Boris and now it's back him like some kind of brexit messiah ? He's not you know ..
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Twaddle! I didn't say that but I don't expect you to bother and check what I actually said. Oof! Why do you bother posting this assenous rubbish, you never have anything constructive to say. #Sadmanonakeyboard 🙄
 
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SocketRocket said:
Twaddle! I didn't say that but I don't expect you to bother and check what I actually said. Oof! Why do you bother posting this assenous rubbish, you never have anything constructive to say. #Sadmanonakeyboard 🙄
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Do you really want me to go back and quote you, I mean you look foolish enough as it is.
Good.to see your goto move is still to be insulting .
 
Um this thread is about Boris, but 90% of it seems to be the same old arguments found on the Brexit thread.

Now there is bound to be some crossover, but let’s not hijack the subject and turn it into another Brexit thread
 
Well, back to Boris..........he has announced more ideas, more positivity in 3 days than TM managed in 3 years. She really did waste her time in office. Whether he can see through any of these is another matter but he has not come in flat.
 
Hobbit said:
That said, is a question like that really making best use of parliamentary time?
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Absolutely - at leas 'most appropriate use...'! It's for precisely this sort of purpose that this part of 'parliamentary time' was allocated!

Hobbit said:
...I expect that with Boris' record of flowery language he'll face plenty of questions that are cringeworthy.
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I believe that if Boris has had time to prepare his reply, then his replies will be really good. If they are 'off the cuff', then his replies are likely to be cringeworthy. He certainly has history of 'foot in mouth disease'!
 
The man is a great representation of the operation of inherited wealth and class in the UK and is interested solely in one thing, Boris.

His character and integrity has proven to be suspect, at best, over years in public life and yet here we find ourself. Another Etonian chum being sold as the saviour of the common man primarily on a single issue which he latched into purely to gain power.

I’m embarrassed to be represented by him (and will be equally embarrassed when the other common folks saviour Farage is appointed ambassador to the USA) and in 5 years time when he has sold the yanks the NHS and syphoned the profits to his mates via lower taxes for the very rich I’ll come back to this thread and refresh it.

Man , I managed not to mention the B word.
 
Let’s be thankful it’s Boris in charge and not Corbyn 😀
We need to give him a chance and look forward instead of dwelling on the past.
 
BrianM said:
Let’s be thankful it’s Boris in charge and not Corbyn 😀
We need to give him a chance and look forward instead of dwelling on the past.
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For the sake of humouring ourselves.

Boris - proven liar, proven aldulterer, happy to discuss assault with friends, happy to use highly suspect language when discussing race if it garners support, worst foreign secretary for some time ( and that’s a high bar), privately educated and a group of the elite class, huge inherited wealth, hated trump- now loves trump, changes his mind more than a guy at Gillingham Golf Club changes his socks.


Yes thank god we have him rather than Corbyn.

Lord save us all from populism. Keep reading the mail people.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Once again it is not anti English but anti Westminster. How many times do I have to repeat that to lazy stereotyped posters for it to sink in.
There are many English residents of Scotland who are members of the SNP, I know of at least 4 within the nearest 20 houses to me.
There are also many English residents in Scotland who are not members of the SNP but are supporters of independence.
Do you think they stir up anti English sentiment and hold 'historical grudges'.:unsure:

As Maxfi says all political parties have their share of zoomers but I can honestly say that I have met very few of lobthewedge's description.
On pro independence Blog sites that I view, blatant anti English views are generally slapped down pretty sharpish.
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Are you not overlooking Salmond's "Londoners need to be punished" ...

And, may I suggest closer scrutiny of wingsover comments...
 
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