mashleyR7
Journeyman Pro
I'm out at 9am today in my 2nd club comp, it's a boegey comp? whats this?
Boegey Comp???
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A Bogey comp is usually Matchplay against the course using your handicap at the appropriate holes. Check first as each club might have slightly different formats.
Foxholer
Blackballed
Matchplay against the course.
If you score a net birdie (or better), you win the hole, par, you halve, bogie or worse you lose it.
+4 or so normally wins the comp.
If you are also playing it with your handicap at stake, be aware that you must play to the equivalent of zero points and that a birdie on a stroke hole (or equivalent) doesn't count as 4 stableford points - only 3.
You shouldn't be surprised how consistent 'the course' is. 18 GIRs and 36 putts!
Enjoy!
If you score a net birdie (or better), you win the hole, par, you halve, bogie or worse you lose it.
+4 or so normally wins the comp.
If you are also playing it with your handicap at stake, be aware that you must play to the equivalent of zero points and that a birdie on a stroke hole (or equivalent) doesn't count as 4 stableford points - only 3.
You shouldn't be surprised how consistent 'the course' is. 18 GIRs and 36 putts!
Enjoy!
ForeRighty
Head Pro
Great format best for amateur golf competitions IMO
Ethan
Money List Winner
Play it like Stableford. If you lose a hole (or get 0 points), it doesn't matter if that was with a 6 or a 12.
The key shot is the one which gives you a half. If you are playing your 5th shot on a par-4 with a stroke index that gives you a shot, then holing it will give you a half.
If you don't hole it, it doesn't matter whether you leave a tap-in or hit it in the trees. So you may as well have a go at holing that shot, whether it is a long putt or a shot from the fairway.
The key shot is the one which gives you a half. If you are playing your 5th shot on a par-4 with a stroke index that gives you a shot, then holing it will give you a half.
If you don't hole it, it doesn't matter whether you leave a tap-in or hit it in the trees. So you may as well have a go at holing that shot, whether it is a long putt or a shot from the fairway.
rosecott
Money List Winner
They shouldn't have different formats. The format for Bogey comps is laid down in rule 32.
chrisd
Major Champion
We played ours today and were told we must hole out on each hole or be DQ'd for handicap reasons - surely this cant be right as you wouldn't hole out in matchplay if you had already lost the hole
Foxholer
Blackballed
That's the 'simple' approach when it's also a qualifying competition.
Bogey (and Par) comps are defined in The Rules as 'Strokeplay comps against a fixed score at each hole', so can be used as a qualifying comp - and it's not both Matchplay and Strokeplay in the one round!
It's not necessary to 'hole out' completely though. Just to the point where zero Stableford points would be scored. Countback would also be affected.
To DQ you for not hole-ing out is harsh imo. No different to picking up in a Stableford one.
rosecott
Money List Winner
It is not necessary to carry on to hole out after the hole has been lost. The only 3 possible outcomes for each hole are win, halve, or loss. If you win the hole by more than 1 stroke, it makes no difference - it's just a win. If you lose the hole by more than 1 stroke, it makes no difference - it's just a loss. Countback is not done on the number of strokes - only the result on each hole. If two players have the same score for the round and one player has +2 on the back 9 and another has +1, the player with +2 wins on countback.
The CONGU manual contains a table for converting bogey results into nett differentials and that is what handicapping software uses. Although the software uses the gross scores and handicap to calculate the results for the competition and any consequent handicap adjustments, any scores on "loss" holes are irrelevant.
chrisd
Major Champion
The trouble with holing out is that you inevietably have a different mindset. On a hole where you have to play a high tariff shot in order to try and get a half on the hole, is the mindset to try the shot or to play carefully so as not to rack up a high score. If you shoot a 5 on a par 4 (without a shot), you lose the hole but stableford adjustment wouldn't be applied but an 8 on the hole would be then a 6 as would leaving the score blank if you didn't complete the hole.
So, should you try and protect a .1 increase by not attempting "impossible" shots ? (I hope that this makes sense)
So, should you try and protect a .1 increase by not attempting "impossible" shots ? (I hope that this makes sense)
rosecott
Money List Winner
Stableford adjustment is not applicable to a Bogey competition.
