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BBC lose Bake Off!

Lord Tyrion said:
I think someone at The Sun will be getting a less than friendly phone call from Murdoch towers and the tone of their coverage will suddenly change. In the next few days blame will go onto the BBC and CH4 will be seen as the saviour of the show.
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I'm not sure. Rupert has found himself in the delightful position of being able to blame both of Britains Publicly owned TV stations for the same issue. He must be rubbing his hands at the prospect.
 
PhilTheFragger said:
This is another example of what happens when the bbc stops actually making programs itself and buys them in off the shelf, clearly the production company are aware that their program is a huge hit, but they also realise that any program has a certain shelf life and Bake off is a fair way down that line,

Clearly the production company will be rubbing their hands with glee, they have maximised their financial gains, it's called market forces.

But, Mary Berry is 81, she isn't going to continue for much longer, and she is a central reason for its success, what happens if she leaves

Clearly channel 4 think they can maximise advertising revenue, but it's clearly another example of the erosion of the bbc as in the old days they would have bought the rights off the production company as soon as they realised the programs potential , and saved themselves a packet in the long run.

You can draw a parallel with the bbcs golf coverage

It's another soggy baked Alaska
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I agree. TV is part of the entertainment business so the only real thing to matter is money. BBC should use tighter contracts if they want to maximise the Intellectual Property etc. But since most of them have their nose in the trough nobody is bothered
 
I heard Eamon Holmes talking this morning about programming and he was saying that the BBC are very poor payers and program makers often only make money on overseas sales, not on what the BBC pay. Effectively, they outsource programs to save money and without outside companies holding on to the rights it would not be worthwhile for them. That suits the BBC on most occasions but it leaves them exposed if they have a big success.
 
With Mel and Sue gone, Mary Berry already 81 and Paul Hollywood with fingers in many (shortcrust) pies, it's inevitable there will be a new line up, probably a different format and it will bear little or no resemblance to the current show
 
Don't see what else the BBC can do.
They took on a program that no-one else wanted, developed it and turned it prime time main stream, offered then to double the existing contract value to £15m to then be told it was £25m the production company wanted. If they had paid up, you can just see and read the bile that would have gone their way because of their reckless spending of the publics money.
I dont watch the program but I hope it crashes and burns, not because I don't like C4, but because I applaud the BBC for standing up for themselves.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
I heard Eamon Holmes talking this morning about programming and he was saying that the BBC are very poor payers and program makers often only make money on overseas sales, not on what the BBC pay. Effectively, they outsource programs to save money and without outside companies holding on to the rights it would not be worthwhile for them. That suits the BBC on most occasions but it leaves them exposed if they have a big success.
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Actually they are forced to do this as part of the charter renewal imposed by the tories, who we all know mostly hate the BBC as they do not slavishly churn out right wing propaganda like a lot of the main stream print media. To quote the proposals

  • Programme making will be opened to greater competition. The possibility of production by independent companies will exist for all BBC programmes except news and some parts of current affairs.

So I imagine there will be more of this in the future where production companies will be happy to let the BBC grow the show but then take it elsewhere for more money. Price of everything and value of nothing etc etc
 
It will go the same way as top gear, people watched bake off mostly for the presenters. Now they have all gone the show will flop I reckon. It might even go back to BBC ala match of the day.in a year or two .
 
Bunkermagnet said:
Don't see what else the BBC can do.
If they had paid up, you can just see and read the bile that would have gone their way because of their reckless spending of the publics money.
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You'll get the moaners, whatever they do/did.
My wife loves the programme, watches it every week.
I'm not in to cooking/baking but I also watch it. It's entertaining.
At least the BBC would have been spending money on something the public want, as the viewing figures will testify.
 
HomerJSimpson said:
With Mel and Sue gone, Mary Berry already 81 and Paul Hollywood with fingers in many (shortcrust) pies, it's inevitable there will be a new line up, probably a different format and it will bear little or no resemblance to the current show
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I thought the quote I heard was very apt " channel 4 have effectively paid 30 million for a marquee and some Magi mixers"
With everyone gone it will die you cannot change all the presenters and have a similar show, one maybe two at a push but not all
 
Bunkermagnet said:
Don't see what else the BBC can do.
They took on a program that no-one else wanted, developed it and turned it prime time main stream, offered then to double the existing contract value to £15m to then be told it was £25m the production company wanted. If they had paid up, you can just see and read the bile that would have gone their way because of their reckless spending of the publics money.
I dont watch the program but I hope it crashes and burns, not because I don't like C4, but because I applaud the BBC for standing up for themselves.
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Spot on - the BBC can never win because they will never keep everyone happy , if they spend £25mil to keep a very popular program then people would complain about spending that much

I enjoy the program - it's really good entertainment, the wife tries the recipes out sometimes and it's full of just normal people enjoying themselves
 
sawtooth said:
It will go the same way as top gear, people watched bake off mostly for the presenters. Now they have all gone the show will flop I reckon. It might even go back to BBC ala match of the day.in a year or two .
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That's it! Get Clarkson and the chaps to present it! Just imagine... "that cake is rubbish you silly cow!" etc etc etc
 
IanM said:
That's it! Get Clarkson and the chaps to present it! Just imagine... "that cake is rubbish you silly cow!" etc etc etc
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I wonder what the most powerful cake in the world would be?

Or if you raced across Japan, would a Chocolate Fudge Cake or a Victoria Sandwich win?
 
Well what do we expect when we have John Whittingdale egged on by his anti-BBC Tory colleagues effectively cutting BBC funding and making BBC fund the over75yrs licence fee. £650m less budget - can't afford to compete for the programmes. Loss of TGBBO is not the fault of the BBC - it's the fault of the government and George Osborne's austerity programme - currently being abandoned by Teresa May.

Though there are those here who will say that I would say that - it is surely an incontrovertible truth. Not that I am that bothered about TGBBO as it's not something I have ever really watched.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-33400935
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Well what do we expect when we have John Whittingdale egged on by his anti-BBC Tory colleagues effectively cutting BBC funding and making BBC fund the over75yrs licence fee. £650m less budget - can't afford to compete for the programmes. Loss of TGBBO is not the fault of the BBC - it's the fault of the government and George Osborne's austerity programme - currently being abandoned by Teresa May.

Though there are those here who will say that I would say that - it is surely an incontrovertible truth. Not that I am that bothered about TGBBO as it's not something I have ever really watched.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-33400935
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Like this? But then again I would post that...

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-37365718

You keep chipping away Tory party, uncle Rupert and The Daily Mail will be very pleased with you.
 
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I just knew it wouldn't be long before the left would blame it all on the government.
You could argue that if its a good enough model for a commercial station - even a non profit station - to do well with, then it's mismanagement by the BBC to be outbid. But that wouldn't suit the looney left agenda.
The fact is the BBC is funded by an outdated model. They have been left for dead by the commercial stations. The TV arm at least should be funded commercially. Good grief, they are even writing to companies now telling them they will be checked to see if any employees are watching iplayer on company PCs, because if they are the company has to buy a TV licence. Like we have time to watch TV.
Its nothing more than a publicly funded mouthpiece for the left these days and I for one object being forced to fund it.
 
Sweep said:
I just knew it wouldn't be long before the left would blame it all on the government.
You could argue that if its a good enough model for a commercial station - even a non profit station - to do well with, then it's mismanagement by the BBC to be outbid. But that wouldn't suit the looney left agenda.
The fact is the BBC is funded by an outdated model. They have been left for dead by the commercial stations. The TV arm at least should be funded commercially. Good grief, they are even writing to companies now telling them they will be checked to see if any employees are watching iplayer on company PCs, because if they are the company has to buy a TV licence. Like we have time to watch TV.
Its nothing more than a publicly funded mouthpiece for the left these days and I for one object being forced to fund it.
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Well if having the largest viewing figures mean they are being left for dead then you make a very sensible and balanced point.

http://www.barb.co.uk/viewing-data/weekly-viewing-summary/

Yours sincerely

A looney lefty.
 
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