Baroness Thatcher Dead

Don't know how many here can remember the UK in the 1970's. Well I can - it was a pretty grim, grey and miserable place. Come the 1990s the UK was a very, very different country. Now how much of that difference - good and bad - can be attributed to the time Thatcher was at the helm I don;t know - and the truth is that NO-ONE knows what the country would have been like if she'd not been Prime Minister. And that is the truth of it. So all the glowing plaudits and the damning criticisms of her and her legacy will be. The past is past. I was never a fan of her in her time. I will not mourn her passing nor will I rejoice in it. My condolensces go out to her family and close friends.
 
I will not mourn her passing. She made some very popular decisions with regard to the Falklands, armed forces and hostage situations but she also caused a lot hurt with her domestic policies.

I think it's sensible not to give her a state funeral as it saves the debate about Major, Blair, Brown e.t.c...in the future.
 
sydney greenstreet said:
I hated the women with a passion, But she is still someone's Mum so I will leave it at that.
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I think that point will be echoed in a lot of towns.

I have mixed emotions about her, im ex forces also and I know she was all for her boys (as she put it). I'm also long enough in the tooth to realise that without the right to buy you council house I may be in rented council accomodation, many people who hated the torries in the 80's are now living like torries of the 80's.

That said, she had the YOP/YTS scheme which ruined the chances of apprenticeships for many people like me leaving school in the mid/late 80's. She also had 18 year olds paying poll tax which was an absolute nonsense and you could argue the privatising of many national institutions is why gas/electricty and many other utilities are as high as they are. I could talk about the steel industry also, the car industry etc etc who were all destroyed under her leadership.

There is her family who have lost a mother/grandmother and for that im sorry.
 
Liverbirdie said:
I have a feeling that this thread could be the equivalent of Luis Suarez leaving to go to Rangers sevco, whilst hitting a "traveller" with a Miura wedge, whilst his shirt is untucked in his loopless shorts.
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:rofl:

RIP Maggie.
 
Valentino said:
I think that point will be echoed in a lot of towns.

I have mixed emotions about her, im ex forces also and I know she was all for her boys (as she put it). I'm also long enough in the tooth to realise that without the right to buy you council house I may be in rented council accomodation, many people who hated the torries in the 80's are now living like torries of the 80's.

That said, she had the YOP/YTS scheme which ruined the chances of apprenticeships for many people like me leaving school in the mid/late 80's. She also had 18 year olds paying poll tax which was an absolute nonsense and you could argue the privatising of many national institutions is why gas/electricty and many other utilities are as high as they are. I could talk about the steel industry also, the car industry etc etc who were all destroyed under her leadership.

There is her family who have lost a mother/grandmother and for that im sorry.
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The car industry and British Steel were destroyed by the previous labour government/ trade unions before Mags came to power.
 
Valentino said:
She put the icing on the cake, Ravenscraig close under her tenure.
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This is the thing that people constantly forget, many of the unfortunate decisions that are made by governments are (in the earlier years) forced upon them by the poor tenure of the previous government.

Bilston Steelworks (near to where I grew up) closed in April 1979, if they had stayed open for 3, 6, 9, 18 months more before closing would that then have made the closure Maggie's fault?

I see however people have forgotten that she was the milk snatcher!
 
Speaking as an Irishman (Republican) I have no opinion one way or the other except she was someones mother and grandmother ..etc so my thoughts go with the family. As for the politics...no thank you.
 
I believe that the powerful union leaders of that time killed more British industry than Maggie ever did.
They were nearly all communists and more in control of the country than our elected leaders.
 
Im not sure any PM in modern times make themselves popular to everyone. Can anyone honestly suggest a popular one since her?? War time Pm's are always more defined in their legacy and especially ones that actually lead rather than be led. In terms of someone who meant well and loved her country and more importantly stood up against the US and took no crap from anyone, she was a legend. I understand that the Northern contingent wont like her and I get that. Unions in the 70's and 80's nearly ruined this country not Maggie. She had to make some tough decisions and hey thats not going to please everyone. I had family in the industries that died such as mining etc but life is sometimes tough, so you buckle up and get on with it, they have!

Im not sure we've ever been great as a country since Maggie run the show. We could do with someone else like her now to lead us out of the crap! Cameron????? Hes not fit to clean her shoes. Fair play to you girl. RIP :thup:
 
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