Baby parking

[Dibby]

Already been mentioned that there is no law restricting the use of these spaces. Realistically I would do nothing.

The question is, what do you hope to achieve by complaining? Obviously, it won't undo what has happened, and how often do you visit the place? Additionally, as cynical as it is, I suspect the management care more about the leaseholder who pays them rent than an individual customer. Assuming you were not planning to visit the flower shop, I doubt the woman who owns that shop cares either. Sometimes it's better to know when there is little to be achieved and pick your battles.

 

[User20204]

If you put them at the far end of the car park then you have the problem of getting toddlers safely across a car park which could be dangerous. There is also the awkward element of pushing a push chair plus shopping. Shopping centres want to make life easier for shoppers, not harder so that is why they are near to the entrances. Seems very logical to me.

If parents can't supervise their children well enough to get them from the car park to the shop I'd suggest they should reconsider their parenting ability and possibly focus on whether they are responsible enough to have children in the first place.

 

[patricks148]

If parents can't supervise their children well enough to get them from the car park to the shop I'd suggest they should reconsider their parenting ability and possibly focus on whether they are responsible enough to have children in the first place.

people are getting lazier and lazier, no one want to walk 20 yards to a shop entrance and have a sense of entitlement they can park where they like

 

[PJ87]

If parents can't supervise their children well enough to get them from the car park to the shop I'd suggest they should reconsider their parenting ability and possibly focus on whether they are responsible enough to have children in the first place.

Lol I take it your wife raised your kids because you clearly didn’t

 

[Lord Tyrion]

If parents can't supervise their children well enough to get them from the car park to the shop I'd suggest they should reconsider their parenting ability and possibly focus on whether they are responsible enough to have children in the first place.

Or we could acknowledge that car parks are dangerous places and the more we can do to reduce the potential of a toddler darting out in front of a car the better. Of course parents should be looking after their kids but this is about reduction of risk, basic risk assessment and H & S.

 

[MegaSteve]

If parents can't supervise their children well enough to get them from the car park to the shop I'd suggest they should reconsider their parenting ability and possibly focus on whether they are responsible enough to have children in the first place.

The real problem is the tossers, behind the wheel, who don't feel the need to moderate their speed when kids/pedestrians don't have proper defined walkways available to use... Which is nearly always the case in shoppers car parks...

 

[patricks148]

The real problem is the tossers, behind the wheel, who don't feel the need to moderate their speed when kids/pedestrians don't have proper defined walkways available to use... Which is nearly always the case in shoppers car parks...

that shouldn't be a problem in reality all those knobs are already parked in the disabled and P&C spots

 

[Deleted member 18121]

If you put them at the far end of the car park then you have the problem of getting toddlers safely across a car park which could be dangerous. There is also the awkward element of pushing a push chair plus shopping. Shopping centres want to make life easier for shoppers, not harder so that is why they are near to the entrances. Seems very logical to me.

The local supermarkets to me have pedestrian paths criss crossed all over the car parks, very easy to navigate around. For me if it was a choice of having a "guaranteed" bigger space then I'd happily walk the extra distance and then just let the bone idol lazy people park at the front.

 

[clubchamp98]

Kids safety is paramount.
Sainsburys by me the PC bays are up the main car park walkway .
The ones by the shop are always full but the ones futher away nobody uses them even when the place is full.
I think it’s not common knowledge that anybody can use them.
I would never argue over a space but van owner may have nowhere else safe to offload.
All she had to do was explain and be civil most people will accept that.

 

[clubchamp98]

If parents can't supervise their children well enough to get them from the car park to the shop I'd suggest they should reconsider their parenting ability and possibly focus on whether they are responsible enough to have children in the first place.

The problem with kids is you have no idea what they will do next.
Especially if the kids outnumber the parents.

 

[PJ87]

Kids safety is paramount.
Sainsburys by me the PC bays are up the main car park walkway .
The ones by the shop are always full but the ones futher away nobody uses them even when the place is full.
I think it’s not common knowledge that anybody can use them.
I would never argue over a space but van owner may have nowhere else safe to offload.
All she had to do was explain and be civil most people will accept that.

According to this https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....t-and-child-parking-spaces-the-dos-and-don-ts

It’s up to the owner of the car park.. and you risk a fine so maybe she’s right that the owner says she can

However to be rude to my wife who was very polite and then rude to me when I stepped in was bang out of order. I’d get a ticket to park in a delivery bay for sure

 

[clubchamp98]

Nothing to do with closeness


According to this https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....t-and-child-parking-spaces-the-dos-and-don-ts

It’s up to the owner of the car park.. and you risk a fine so maybe she’s right that the owner says she can

However to be rude to my wife who was very polite and then rude to me when I stepped in was bang out of order. I’d get a ticket to park in a delivery bay for sure

I agree no need for rudeness.
Maybe the car park owner should make one bay a CP and loading bay to stop any confusion.

 

[patricks148]

Nothing to do with closeness


According to this https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....t-and-child-parking-spaces-the-dos-and-don-ts

It’s up to the owner of the car park.. and you risk a fine so maybe she’s right that the owner says she can

However to be rude to my wife who was very polite and then rude to me when I stepped in was bang out of order. I’d get a ticket to park in a delivery bay for sure

looks like its everything to do with laziness TBH, would you have argued about the space if it was the back end of the car park?

I'm not expecting you to reply by the way, you didn't reply to any of my other comments despite being the first to post and asked a question, i suggest you only wanted a response in your favour

 

[PJ87]

looks like its everything to do with laziness TBH, would you have argued about the space if it was the back end of the car park?

I'm not expecting you to reply by the way, you didn't reply to any of my other comments despite being the first to post and asked a question, i suggest you only wanted a response in your favour

I would have tbh it’s about the space to safely get my daughter in and out the car

Nothing to do with the location

Considering we went to and from the car 3 times in 5 hours whilst we went every direction away from it so either way we would have passed the cars location

 

[clubchamp98]

looks like its everything to do with laziness TBH, would you have argued about the space if it was the back end of the car park?

I'm not expecting you to reply by the way, you didn't reply to any of my other comments despite being the first to post and asked a question, i suggest you only wanted a response in your favour

Back end of the car park wouldn’t have loading bays for the shops.
If the shop owners can’t empty their vans the shop would be empty.
It sounds like the parking is not what it should be as most shops offload at the rear and shop owner is the one being lazy and not using designated bays.
Still no need for being rude to customers that might be going to HER shop.

 

[patricks148]

I would have tbh it’s about the space to safely get my daughter in and out the car

Nothing to do with the location

Considering we went to and from the car 3 times in 5 hours whilst we went every direction away from it so either way we would have passed the cars location

why not park further way then, i'm sure there would have been a safe space, if its anything like here, every space within a 20 yards of the doors are rammed and the further away space deserted.

When the mother in law was alive it was our only option as we could never get in any of the disabled spaces because they were always full of lazy people and people who though it was ok to park in them because they and their children were more important and needed the space more than a disabled person

 

[PJ87]

why not park further way then, i'm sure there would have been a safe space, if its anything like here, every space within a 20 yards of the doors are rammed and the further away space deserted.

When the mother in law was alive it was our only option as we could never get in any of the disabled spaces because they were always full of lazy people and people who though it was ok to park in them because they and their children were more important and needed the space more than a disabled person

I would never agree to anyone parking in a disable bay without a blue badge

The car park was pretty rammed.. and the fact we saw the lady going back to her van after finishing then was just doing stuff at the stall

She could have easily moved the van and left her assistants arranging flowers that were now out of the van

There was one further space we were trying to get in right next to her stall however the van was so long it blocked access to that aswell. So blocked 2 last baby spaces just because she couldn’t park considerately

 

[PJ87]

why not park further way then, i'm sure there would have been a safe space, if its anything like here, every space within a 20 yards of the doors are rammed and the further away space deserted.

When the mother in law was alive it was our only option as we could never get in any of the disabled spaces because they were always full of lazy people and people who though it was ok to park in them because they and their children were more important and needed the space more than a disabled person

Another example of people being selfish

We went swimming after and their are 3 family changing rooms.. have baby change and are very large to fit everyone in

2 are in use by parents, and 1 had a lady in it.. we walked in she goes oh are you coming in here? Yes as it’s the family one. She gave some muttering and walked out.

Nothing to do with it being closer to anything just has more space for people who need it. That one single lady could go and use the normal changing bits which are fine but are no good for anyone with kids as they are built for 1

 

[LGC2019]

People who use P&C spaces without a child are the same as people who use disabled spaces without a blue badge - lazy, disrespectful and arrogant. The same can be said about people who park on double yellows right outside the shop (usually Range Rovers for some reason) or drivers who park over two spaces. I wouldn't waste my time getting into an argument with any of these people as you'll never get anywhere, and will more than likely receive some sort of ignorant reply or abuse.

 

[Papas1982]

If you want to see real obnoxious parking.

Come along with me on a school run. Just this today there are two people across people's drives and one numpty literally parked in the middle of the road blocking all traffic to drop their kids off (leaving car there for 5 minutes).