fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
i think you can assume to some degree that all 11 players and the coaching staff knew, hard not to, to what extent each played a part is less clear and CA clearly trying to tar as few as possible
Aussies caught cheating on camera
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i think you can assume to some degree that all 11 players and the coaching staff knew, hard not to, to what extent each played a part is less clear and CA clearly trying to tar as few as possible
Wilson
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What a shambles, CA are now dropping the ball here too, no way only these 3 were involved, and how Lehman keeps his job is astounding.
Can't understand why Lehman is still there. Even if he wasn't compliant, he's the team manager and therefore carries a responsibility for the behaviour of his players. Very poor handling by the ICC and the Aussie board
Isn't that just indicative of how the Aussies see themselves ?? I don't know I'm watching from afar but from what I've gathered they (the Aussies) recently have been playing nasty and to quote someone "friendless" so the CA doing as they've done almost confirms that, they are only gonna execute those small numbers as it's a back to the wall stuff....hope that makes sense..
This probably explains better what I was trying to say...
Wilson
Head Pro
I’ve just been doing some further reading on this, Jim Maxwell, (Aussie broadcaster who is in SA with the Team), is saying that it was Warner’s idea, and Smith asked what he & Bancroft were chatting about, and then said he didn’t want to know.
The comment about the leadership group has been rolled back, as some of the bowlers are threatening action as they are perceived to be part of this, yet are adamant they had no knowledge.
Interestingly Maxwell is also saying Warner has been ostracised by the othe players, so it looks like they are placing the blame with him.
The comment about the leadership group has been rolled back, as some of the bowlers are threatening action as they are perceived to be part of this, yet are adamant they had no knowledge.
Interestingly Maxwell is also saying Warner has been ostracised by the othe players, so it looks like they are placing the blame with him.
Ye I read that very same thing.
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
heard very diff re leadership group, supposed to be smith, warner, lyon, starc and hazlewood
cummins not the brightest and rarely fit, be amazed how youd ever have him in that sort of role
cummins not the brightest and rarely fit, be amazed how youd ever have him in that sort of role
Piece
Tour Winner
Boof didn't know anything...:rofl::rofl::rofl:
Hiding the walky talky once on camera, with the other walky talky in the 12th man's hands, who just happens to run on the field and talk to Bancroft.
:rofl:
He'll resign soon enough.
Hiding the walky talky once on camera, with the other walky talky in the 12th man's hands, who just happens to run on the field and talk to Bancroft.
:rofl:He'll resign soon enough.
Dan2501
Tour Winner
Tim Paine as Australia Test Captain. What is happening? What a shambles they are.
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
Smith banned for a year by CA
Same for Warner
9 months for Bancroft
Same for Warner
9 months for Bancroft
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I posted earlier that I did not expect much to happen over this. I thought there would be a bit of fuss and then it would be dusted under the carpet, all would return to normal. I have to say I have never been happier to be wrong. Excellent response by CA, they also have added a 2yr ban for Warner or Smith captaining Australia.
I know you can argue about whether these 3 are the sacrificial lambs and others have dodged the bullet but the punishments relating to them send a clear message. They also send a bit of a message to other countries, if your players are messing with the ball, this is what should happen to them. No more sweets in the pocket.
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
I think, with the wave of discontent back home,this is the least CA could do.
When your PM is virtually asking for blood, anything less would have been dangerous.
Personally, I can't see any of them playing for OZ again.
Too much baggage.
When your PM is virtually asking for blood, anything less would have been dangerous.
Personally, I can't see any of them playing for OZ again.
Too much baggage.
Aggers this morning was suggesting that Warner will become a Pietersen and be a 20-20 for hire man. Good living to be made at that. Smith will come back because they can't afford to lose a batsman as good as him. Don't know enough about Bancroft.
Beezerk
Money List Winner
Yes, Smith will definitely be back, probably for the Ashes next year.
I really do hope someone goes to a game in fancy dress as a bag of Silver Spoon :rofl:
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
Decent response from CA on the 3 obviously involved, think 3 of the bowlers rumoured to be on the leadership group are really lucky not to have been penalised, and Lehman must feel like hes won the lottery. Mixed bag
Seems Warner been thrown fully under the bus (explain the outcast bits yesterday), as it was his plan, he showed Bancroft how to do it etc, Smith partially so for being weak as captain
Looks like club crickets just got harder for a year in parts of Australia
Seems Warner been thrown fully under the bus (explain the outcast bits yesterday), as it was his plan, he showed Bancroft how to do it etc, Smith partially so for being weak as captain
Looks like club crickets just got harder for a year in parts of Australia
i suppose looking on the bright side, plenty of sledging material for whoever is playing against the Aussies for the next few years.
Dan2501
Tour Winner
Smith and Warner also banned from this seasons IPL - both were set to captain their respective teams.
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Bancroft ban about right - young, inexperienced player who has been put up to something by those who should know better. We just don't know how much pressure was applied to him to comply.
Smith and Warner should've got 3 years ban minimum to really send a message. If they'd been players from the Indian sub-continent they'd have got a lot longer.
Warner comes across as a nasty bit of work - would've banned him from all cricket for that period.
And as others have said, the other members of the 'leadership group' (which surely must consist of DL) have got away with it.
Smith and Warner should've got 3 years ban minimum to really send a message. If they'd been players from the Indian sub-continent they'd have got a lot longer.
Warner comes across as a nasty bit of work - would've banned him from all cricket for that period.
And as others have said, the other members of the 'leadership group' (which surely must consist of DL) have got away with it.
Do you think so? If you google previous punishments for ball tampering they don't come anywhere close to this. This is a massive punishment.
Regarding Bancroft, if you see the sugar in the pocket picture from the 4th test v England then that would suggest he has previous and this was not a first attempt.
The ban by the IPL is a big one. Smith and Warner would be on big money there so that will hurt.
