Are all your shafts the same stiffness?

John_R7 said:
Because wedges are not primarily for out & out distance. They are for control.
Stiff can offer more accuracy & control.
(I think but am prepared to be shot down in flames).
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Yet people claim they need regular shafts in irons. You also don't hit wedges nearly as hard an normal irons. strange that.
 
Qwerty said:
I bet you wish you'd never asked now :rofl:
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I could follow most of it until Gay "fitter to the stars" from Derry started, my heads battered since.

Thanks for all the views, though, deffo food for thought, and I'm going to give it a try, after all it only cost me a tenner.

I checked the shaft in the old one and I didn'k know that sports soccer did lob wedges with Diamana Kali thistle shafts in them.....:whistle:
 
drive4show said:
You should go to someone decent then ;)

The guy who built my clubs only deals in CPM (cycles per minute) and he also works with tour pros.

Is Scott Gourlay a club fitter or club builder?
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both and respected in Europe I'm led to believe- after Ethans post it seems you need to find a decent builder/fitter:smirk:
 
Piece said:
I agree with D4S. Specialist fitters or outfits deal in CPM and use shaft manufacturers' frequency scaling (e.g Rifle FCM 5.0, PX 6.0, etc) to get the right 'stiffness' for you. High street people would use Reg, Stiff, etc., leaving you open to what is stiff in one make is another's lady shaft.
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I've borrowed a driver off my mate temporarily, and he said that the shaft has been "pured".I'd never heard of this but it may sound like what your talking about. Is this another word for balancing it or evening out any imperfections in a shaft, changing the resonance etc.

He picks up ex pro clubs from a tour fitter,
 
Liverbirdie said:
I've borrowed a driver off my mate temporarily, and he said that the shaft has been "pured".I'd never heard of this but it may sound like what your talking about. Is this another word for balancing it or evening out any imperfections in a shaft, changing the resonance etc.

He picks up ex pro clubs from a tour fitter,
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Indirectly, yes. Pureing finds the best orientation of the shaft to give the best stable and most consistent performance. Some will say it's a waste of money, others not.
 
Piece said:
Indirectly, yes. Pureing finds the best orientation of the shaft to give the best stable and most consistent performance. Some will say it's a waste of money, others not.
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Thanks, is "puring" a generically good thing for a shaft, or should it be a personal thing in a custom fitting scenario, whereby it should be done to match a player's swing speed etc?
 
CMAC said:
both and respected in Europe I'm led to believe- after Ethans post it seems you need to find a decent builder/fitter:smirk:
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Ethan didn't disagree with anything I said, he just added more detail :thup:
 
Liverbirdie said:
Thanks, is "puring" a generically good thing for a shaft, or should it be a personal thing in a custom fitting scenario, whereby it should be done to match a player's swing speed etc?
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It's a good thing IMHO, mainly for carbon shafts and is the last thing in a custom fit procedure. It's not related to swing speed as all the custom fit parameters have been done.

A bit like taking a supermarket trolley...all look the same but pureing eliminates the one that pulls to left;)
 
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Piece said:
It's a good thing IMHO, mainly for carbon shafts and is the last thing in a custom fit procedure. It's not related to swing speed as all the custom fit parameters have been done.

A bit like taking a supermarket trolley...all look the same but pureing eliminates the one that pulls to left;)
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So "balancing" it in effect. I used to work in a turbocharger company, so understand the merits of that.:thup:
 
Not in my bag they're not.

Stiff woods, even though the launch monitors X-Stiff I find I can put a smoother swing on the driver and have more control.
X-Stiff irons, get a better ball flight and control with all the irons.
Wedge Flex (stiff I believe) 50* & 58*, never going to hit them flat out so want more control and a higher spinning ball flight.
 
Liverbirdie said:
So "balancing" it in effect. I used to work in a turbocharger company, so understand the merits of that.:thup:
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A shaft that has been pure'd has the strongest side of the shaft in a particular orientation (I believe facing the target)

If you had the club handle in a vice and 'twanged' the shaft so the head goes back and forth along the ball>target line, a pure'd shaft will oscillate back and forth along that line.
Without pure'ing - unless it's in the right orientation by chance - you end up with the head oscillationg in a circle.

For those that believe in the process, this means that if your swing loads the shaft so that it bends a couple of inches backwards, when the face returns to it's original position it might be an inch to the left or right of centre.
 
Region3 said:
A shaft that has been pure'd has the strongest side of the shaft in a particular orientation (I believe facing the target)

If you had the club handle in a vice and 'twanged' the shaft so the head goes back and forth along the ball>target line, a pure'd shaft will oscillate back and forth along that line.
Without pure'ing - unless it's in the right orientation by chance - you end up with the head oscillationg in a circle.

For those that believe in the process, this means that if your swing loads the shaft so that it bends a couple of inches backwards, when the face returns to it's original position it might be an inch to the left or right of centre.
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I have seen $1000 shafts with 4 spines so puring will still find the best orientation where just spine aligning would basically be a guess. If you get a shaft pured make sure you get a certificate with it, not just a sticker....
 
Just switched to Nike stiff shafted irons. The difference between regular and stiff was massive when I was testing a few irons out last night. Going to slowly switch my whole bag to stiff when I get round to replacing everything!
 
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Region3 said:
A shaft that has been pure'd has the strongest side of the shaft in a particular orientation (I believe facing the target)

If you had the club handle in a vice and 'twanged' the shaft so the head goes back and forth along the ball>target line, a pure'd shaft will oscillate back and forth along that line.
Without pure'ing - unless it's in the right orientation by chance - you end up with the head oscillationg in a circle.

For those that believe in the process, this means that if your swing loads the shaft so that it bends a couple of inches backwards, when the face returns to it's original position it might be an inch to the left or right of centre.
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Thanks Gary, all I know is that I now struggle to hit my power fade with it. ;)
 
Woods all the same stiffness, irons are X stiff and wedges s200 wedge flex.
I'm happy with every club but the shaft in the driver, still isn't giving the results I'd like. May swap back to a X stiff in that.
 
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