anyone tried these?

[nmartyn]

i'm thinking major gimmick... but you never know

http://www.golfonline.co.uk/wilson-profile-antislice-golf-balls-pack-p-4780.html

 

[Twire]

Unless they can make your clubhead strike the ball perpendicular, can't see them working.



Edit...90 degree's to the swing plane

 

[theeaglehunter]

I haven't tried these but my views on how good they would be can be seen in something I posted on another thread:

On the ball note however I am a firm believer that the flight characteristics some people claim modern technology balls have are ridiculous. I agree entirely that around the green the way balls behave is very different but I struggle to see (and so do low handicappers I have discussed this with) how people can come to the conclusion (without being a professional / having a ball fitting) on what ball gives them the best carry / direction. On another thread I read how someone was hitting the ball straight with one type of ball and slicing majorly with a different ball, to me there is not enoguh difference in a ball to effect this. The claims of some balls giving a higher ball flight than others are also mysterious to me, yes spin rates may allow certain balls to climb higher but how can anyone actually claim this without a trackman etc measuring the height two different balls fly with IDENTICAL strikes. When us amateurs strike so inconsistently, and purely with the human eye to measure, I don't think there are any differences in say the height a ball flies that we could notice. I was hitting my driver today on the practice ground (very well as it happens) with identical balls and even though hitting all quite solidly some were flying higher than others / straighter than others and this was purely because I was striking it differently most of the time, with even a slight variance in launch angle / club face angle affecting the flight. Us amateurs are therefore in no position to make a judgement on the effect different balls have off the tee for example.

I know this is probably as clear as mud but essentially the point I am trying to make is that when us amateurs strike the ball as inconsistently as we do(I think this goes for most on here, maybe not the category 1 / pro players) it is impossible to determine whether ball 'x' gives a higher flight / straighter flight than ball 'y' when they are hit consecutively / in the same round, as each swing will be ever so slightly different at the very least. (The way it responds around the green / feels off the face I do agree we can all make a judgement on.)

Also whilst some balls have reduced spin off the driver face than others I from my experience believe that whilst the left to right effect may be reduced, if I come over the top and drastically cut across the ball it doesn't matter what I am using I will slice it. This is why I judge my balls performance on how it reacts when landing on the green / around the green (and how it feels off the club face) not on how it supposedly flies in the air. If I put a good swing on it any ball will travel straight. I for one haven't found a ball that lets me hit the ball noticeably more consistently than another in terms of ball flight produced. It is all dependent on the way I hit the blummin' thing! I would definitely be interested to see, in terms of yards of right to left movement, the difference between an identical 'draw' swing (they could perhaps use one of those testing robot things) put on a soft cover premium ball and a harder cover ball. I'm not to convinced that the results would be too noticeable. (at a guess the premium ball would move an extra 5 yards or so, although this really is a guess and would of course be dependent on other factors as well) I also think it would be hard to tell the difference between the height that can be achieved with two different balls from two identical swings for us amateurs anyway. I do believe that for tour professionals the difference would be worth considering, but many of us amateurs over play the role of the ball when not in relation to its on green control.

 

[toyboy54]

theeaglehunter...excuse me ...but WTF was that screed about??
This i not NASA here we are all(pretty much)ordinary joes here...so KISS(keep it simple st*pid,please?)
When I get back home I'll try and decipher your dissertation on balls,launch angle,attack planes etc!
Now I'm going for A beer or 3!!

 

[viscount17]

surely there is something wrong with this:

The Profile Anti-Slice utilizes a proprietary paraffin cover coating to reduce friction and lower negative sidespin for straighter ball flight and greater distance.

* Soft Neodymium Core
Generates powerful distance off the club face.
* Slick Ionomer Cover
Provides responsive feel with lower overall spin.
* Paraffinic Slip Coating
Reduces friction and negative sidespin for straighter, longer ball flight

if the 'Slick Ionomer Cover' reduces overall spin it must also be reducing backspin and therefore distance,

and if the 'Paraffinic Slip Coating' (these are getting as bad as make-up ads) reduces friction and negative sidespin, it must also reduce backspin and hence distance

 

[theeaglehunter]

theeaglehunter...excuse me ...but WTF was that screed about??
This i not NASA here we are all(pretty much)ordinary joes here...so KISS(keep it simple st*pid,please?)
When I get back home I'll try and decipher your dissertation on balls,launch angle,attack planes etc!
Now I'm going for A beer or 3!!

Sorry toyboy54, I won't post anything I think may be of interest to some people anymore.

It really is quite simple, if you noticed the length of the post was too long for you to manage then don't read it. Also if you think it is a stupid post, for the benefit of forum relations (not in my case but maybe others in the future), when you wish to be negatively critical in a fashion that adds nothing to the discussion, perhaps it would be prudent to refrain from publicly attacking the post in question. Simply think to yourself what a load of rubbish it is, and ignore it.

This is not some scientifically proven dossier, merely my belief on the ability of us amateurs to distinguish between the characteristics of different balls whilst in the air. Just because you may or may not be of an intellectual capacity to understand the post , does not mean that others are also unable to interpret it. You are more than welcome to consider the post stupid, however please avoid in future posting something that is just negative and derogatory and overall pointless. I am still bemused by your need to post this.

 

[nmartyn]

oops, didn't meant to start a fight!

valid point and i agree with what you say. clearly the top end ball which spins a LOT will exagerate any off centre misshits. so as we all know its a question of balancing the need for feel against low spin.
just amused me a little to see a ball so obviously targeted for the player (a lot of us!) who suffers with a slice off the tee.

ps. on that subject, had a conversation with my mate the other day. he's a leftie and like me suffers with a slice but its a big advantage to him as the majority of holes are dog leg lefts in my experience!

 

[viscount17]

eagle, you're wrong.
The choice of ball as with any golf equipment is, in the main, an empirical decision and as such, one that we amateurs are perfectly capable of making, although we may make it for the wrong reasons.

A part of that choice will be emotional or psychological, led by bias or preference - the reason why some golf bags are all Titleist or all Ping and neither will ever see a Callaway.

If you hit ten similar balls of different manufacture you will form an opinion of the flight characteristics of each, irrespective of the quality of the strike. (In fact the poorer the strike the more influence it will have on your decision; the decision made for the wrong reasons.)

To me Callaway feel harder than an equivalent Titleist, Srixon generally feel softer than either. That may be wrong as a point of fact, but that does negate my opinion of how I feel them off the face.

 

[theeaglehunter]

eagle, you're wrong.
The choice of ball as with any golf equipment is, in the main, an empirical decision and as such, one that we amateurs are perfectly capable of making, although we may make it for the wrong reasons.

A part of that choice will be emotional or psychological, led by bias or preference - the reason why some golf bags are all Titleist or all Ping and neither will ever see a Callaway.

If you hit ten similar balls of different manufacture you will form an opinion of the flight characteristics of each, irrespective of the quality of the strike. (In fact the poorer the strike the more influence it will have on your decision; the decision made for the wrong reasons.)

To me Callaway feel harder than an equivalent Titleist, Srixon generally feel softer than either. That may be wrong as a point of fact, but that does negate my opinion of how I feel them off the face.

I appreciate what you say but am still not convinced. Whilst I agree entirely that you can form an opinion on how a ball feels (I did say in my post that in my humble opinion anybody can reach a valid conclusion on this, and a balls performance around the green) I still do not believe that it would be right (maybe this is the wrong word) to form a decision as to a balls flight characteristics when strikes are so varied. To take an example, where you
allude to a poorer strike giving you more in the way of feedback as to the balls aerodynamic performance, something I do partially accept, how can you compare this to a different ball you hit subsequently?- without the aid of a trackman or similar device? One ball may travel 20 yards right when you cut across it, and another one only 10 yards but how do you know you hit them the same and you didn't just have a more significantly open face at impact on the first shot? You simply can not without the aid of technology, which is obviously why 'ball fittings' are rapidly growing in popularity.

I do accept you counter this in your post by saying that amateurs can / will make decision even if they are for the wrong reasons, but this in essence is the point I am making. The decisions are for the wrong reason, and for that reason surely it would be better if such bias opinions were not formed at all? It is for that reason that I think higher handicap amateurs shouldn't try and differentiate between two different balls flights. The point I made in my perhaps overly long initial post.

Obviously this is all my opinion though so more than likely wrong, and I openly welcome any criticisms you may have of it! I am just yet to be convinced otherwise!

 

[JustOne]

Interesting. I wonder HOW MUCH reduction in sideways movement (or spin) is required to claim something as Anti-Slice?

Would it not also be anti-fade, anti-draw and anti-hook as all require an angled strike on the ball?

Personally I'd much rather stick to a regular off the shelf Titleist ball ... of any description