Ant drink driving

[Lord Tyrion]

Two pints of weaker ale wouldn't quite put you over the limit though would it?

It depends on the individual. Why take the risk, for yourself and others?

 

[Khamelion]

Two pints of weaker ale wouldn't quite put you over the limit though would it? Nor two pints of shandy as my driving mates tend to have. I think what Ant has done is quite a way beyond that.

As I wrote, I wasn't suggesting people were getting a skinfull then driving, I would expect as adults people have more common sense then that. But regardless of the strength of what alcohol you drink after a round, you are still drinking and driving.

The simple rule for any sensible person, is if you are going to have a drink then do not drive.

 

[Orikoru]

As I wrote, I wasn't suggesting people were getting a skinfull then driving, I would expect as adults people have more common sense then that. But regardless of the strength of what alcohol you drink after a round, you are still drinking and driving.

The simple rule for any sensible person, is if you are going to have a drink then do not drive.

Obviously it's fine to have a drink and drive, otherwise the law wouldn't say that you can?

 

[GB72]

I think that there is some confusion here attributing what we would see as rational thinking to an addict. Simple fact is that alcoholics do not see things rationally. Depending on the severity of the issue, alcoholics can be drink driving a huge percentage of the time especially is classed as a functioning alcoholic. Thing is that they do not, as a whole, appreciate the severity of what they are doing and often just see it as part of daily life. Not saying that it is right in any way, just pointing out that trying to apply the way that you think to an addict is not an accurate way of looking at a situation.
Alcoholics can also be very craft in the concealment of their problem, especially in this instance when you have supposedly addressed the problem. Again, if the alcoholic if functioning then it is totally possible that any passenger would not be aware of the fact that they are over the limit. Simple things like putting spirits in water bottles etc are often used to conceal the fact that an alcoholic has fallen off the wagon.
As for the lack of care from his management etc, I do feel that he was rushed through rehab and back to work to ensure that he was available for I'm a Celebrity. Pure hypothesis but seems possible.

Anyway, hard for me to be judgemental having had extensive experience with a thankfully now over 10 years clean alcoholic relative. Just bear in mind that it really is very difficult to deal with.

 

[Khamelion]

Obviously it's fine to have a drink and drive, otherwise the law wouldn't say that you can?

This is where a few people will disagree, it is not okay to have, a, drink and drive, my view is if you are going to drink common sense should tell you not to drive. It doesn't matter if it's one drink or two or more.

I think that there is some confusion here attributing what we would see as rational thinking to an addict. Simple fact is that alcoholics do not see things rationally. Depending on the severity of the issue, alcoholics can be drink driving a huge percentage of the time especially is classed as a functioning alcoholic. Thing is that they do not, as a whole, appreciate the severity of what they are doing and often just see it as part of daily life. Not saying that it is right in any way, just pointing out that trying to apply the way that you think to an addict is not an accurate way of looking at a situation.
Alcoholics can also be very craft in the concealment of their problem, especially in this instance when you have supposedly addressed the problem. Again, if the alcoholic if functioning then it is totally possible that any passenger would not be aware of the fact that they are over the limit. Simple things like putting spirits in water bottles etc are often used to conceal the fact that an alcoholic has fallen off the wagon.
As for the lack of care from his management etc, I do feel that he was rushed through rehab and back to work to ensure that he was available for I'm a Celebrity. Pure hypothesis but seems possible.

Anyway, hard for me to be judgemental having had extensive experience with a thankfully now over 10 years clean alcoholic relative. Just bear in mind that it really is very difficult to deal with.

No confusion on my part, whether you are an alcoholic, functioning or otherwise, or a non-alcoholic, if you decide to drink then drive you are not thinking rationally. Common sense and any thought for your actions has gone out the window and you are prepared to face the consequences of your actions should you be caught.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Why didn't he get a taxi? He's loaded!

if he is an alcoholic then in his mind he was not drunk and was quite capable of driving - and nothing his mother might have said would have been able to change his mind.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I think that there is some confusion here attributing what we would see as rational thinking to an addict. Simple fact is that alcoholics do not see things rationally. Depending on the severity of the issue, alcoholics can be drink driving a huge percentage of the time especially is classed as a functioning alcoholic. Thing is that they do not, as a whole, appreciate the severity of what they are doing and often just see it as part of daily life. Not saying that it is right in any way, just pointing out that trying to apply the way that you think to an addict is not an accurate way of looking at a situation.
Alcoholics can also be very craft in the concealment of their problem, especially in this instance when you have supposedly addressed the problem. Again, if the alcoholic if functioning then it is totally possible that any passenger would not be aware of the fact that they are over the limit. Simple things like putting spirits in water bottles etc are often used to conceal the fact that an alcoholic has fallen off the wagon.
As for the lack of care from his management etc, I do feel that he was rushed through rehab and back to work to ensure that he was available for I'm a Celebrity. Pure hypothesis but seems possible.

Anyway, hard for me to be judgemental having had extensive experience with a thankfully now over 10 years clean alcoholic relative. Just bear in mind that it really is very difficult to deal with.

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